Poll: Should Trump’s course be stripped of the PGA?

[patricks148]

i'd imagine something will have to give, the people who put up the money for Turnberry won't leave things as they are for long, haemorrhaging money and not having an open.. can't go on for ever??

 

[IanM]

Only 4 Opens...it’s hardly been an R&A favourite over the years

Also, as IanM says, they haven’t actually mentioned Trump in their wording. In theory it could include any owners (but we know who they mean)

I'd say they were equally worried about gangs of loons (of any political hue) turning up to disrupt/demonstrate whatever!! And by loons I mean folk wanting to cause trouble, without me evaluating their position!

 

[sunshine]

I'd say they were equally worried about gangs of loons (of any political hue) turning up to disrupt/demonstrate whatever!! And by loons I mean folk wanting to cause trouble, without me evaluating their position!

I agree. I expect the R&A is more worried about Trump protesters than Trump himself.

 

[sunshine]

i'd imagine something will have to give, the people who put up the money for Turnberry won't leave things as they are for long, haemorrhaging money and not having an open.. can't go on for ever??

Has it been struggling for a long time? It would be interesting to know how well it has been doing to compared with Gleneagles for example.

I guess in the current environment, no hotel is making any money.

 

[Orikoru]

The man is a total buffoon, anything that loses him money or even simply annoys him has my vote.

 

[sunshine]

Only 4 Opens...it’s hardly been an R&A favourite over the years

Also, as IanM says, they haven’t actually mentioned Trump in their wording. In theory it could include any owners (but we know who they mean)

Did a bit of research: Turns out that Turnberry only became a championship quality course after post-WW2 renovations in the 1950s. So it was establishing its reputation in the 60s, got its first Open in the 70s, then hosted an Open a decade in the 80s, 90s, 00s. That's about average isn't it? Would have hosted an Open in the last couple of years if it wasn't for Trump.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

i'd imagine something will have to give, the people who put up the money for Turnberry won't leave things as they are for long, haemorrhaging money and not having an open.. can't go on for ever??

There was me thinking that it was the owner who put all the money up for the revamp.

 

[patricks148]

Has it been struggling for a long time? It would be interesting to know how well it has been doing to compared with Gleneagles for example.

I guess in the current environment, no hotel is making any money.

the prev owners gutted the hotel and referbed it about 10 years ago and i don't think it was doing that well. he came along and did it again and the course not cheap i'd imagine, M&E charged us £1 million to do 3 holes and change some bunkers so the course would have been a lot by those sums

 

[drdel]

Empty gesture. The impact of a ban would fall on the workers and subcontractors.

 

[patricks148]

Empty gesture. The impact of a ban would fall on the workers and subcontractors.

how so, surley they would just play somwhere else?

 

[DanFST]

Has it been struggling for a long time? It would be interesting to know how well it has been doing to compared with Gleneagles for example.

I guess in the current environment, no hotel is making any money.

I know nothing about the hotel.

From a golf perspective, Trump personally had a meeting with all members, who had huge reservations when he came in. He stated that anyone who wanted to leave after the work had been completed would receive their full joining fee and that years membership back. Less than a handful left......


The members I know say it has improved no end. I've only been before he came in, and it was starting to fall apart

 

[Imurg]

There was me thinking that it was the owner who put all the money up for the revamp.

But where did he get the money from..?

 

[theoneandonly]

Can the mods please explain to a thicko like me why this thread is not political

I would have to agree, this whole thread goes completely against the no politics rule. I post on the AV forums which I'd say are much busier than here and we manage to talk Brexit etc.

I feel the forum made a mistake with the ban and should have dealt with the posters instead, as a long time lurker it's very clear who the trouble makers are, the whole place is just a little too cosy, which to be fair is what puts me and others off joining and getting more involved.

 

[KenL]

I hear it is £100 to take a guest on the Ailsa course. Not really a great place to be a member for me.

 

[spongebob59]

But where did he get the money from..?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/swam...rs-to-buy-his-money-losing-scottish-golf-club

 

[clubchamp98]

I would have to agree, this whole thread goes completely against the no politics rule. I post on the AV forums which I'd say are much busier than here and we manage to talk Brexit etc.

I feel the forum made a mistake with the ban and should have dealt with the posters instead, as a long time lurker it's very clear who the trouble makers are, the whole place is just a little too cosy, which to be fair is what puts me and others off joining and getting more involved.

It’s a golf forum though.
Politics just bring out the worst in otherwise nice people.
But censorship isn’t right either just don’t get involved if you don’t like it.

 

[drdel]

how so, surley they would just play somwhere else?

I'm sure your opinion would be met with joy from the current workforce.

 

[Imurg]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/swam...rs-to-buy-his-money-losing-scottish-golf-club

Says a lot....and also doesn't..
Interesting times ahead.

 

[sunshine]

I know nothing about the hotel.

From a golf perspective, Trump personally had a meeting with all members, who had huge reservations when he came in. He stated that anyone who wanted to leave after the work had been completed would receive their full joining fee and that years membership back. Less than a handful left......


The members I know say it has improved no end. I've only been before he came in, and it was starting to fall apart

Interesting.

I'm surprised there are many members, as a resort venue I would have thought that they were more focused on visitors.

I spoke with someone a couple of years ago who had played the refurbished course, and he couldn't praise the course and the hotel enough. That meant quite a lot to me as he is a guy who is always off playing the top courses in the UK and abroad.

 

[Tashyboy]

Be interested to see how long he keeps most of them, once his loans have been called

Watching the news last night and there was a piece that pricked my ears. Trump has a place in Florida called Mar a Lago I think
( Lake and sea). Anyway it has special status that if you go into debt/ bankrupt. Any property’s or assets on Mar a Lago cannot be seized. Furthermore it went onto say that most of the richest people that live on Trumps island are contributors to his “ beliefs” ??