Players without 'C' H/caps playing in Club Comps

[2blue]

Of course they need to play in Club Q Comps as that is the Main way they can become 'c'... but.....
should they be able to play & take the honours in BetterBall Comps that, of course, are not Q.
What does your Club do??

 

[DCB]

Our KO comps require you to have 'C' status. You could be opening a right can of worms if you don't require that .

 

[chrisd]

I seem to recall the reason for bringing In the "c" was to stop people entering pairs comps and being bandits

 

[Lord Tyrion]

My experience is that anyone playing without a handicap or an inactive one can not win. They can take part but not take the trophy or any prize money etc. That's the only way to keep the comp honest and fair. That applies to all comps at clubs I've been at.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If you don't have a C handicap then you can't win any qualifying comp and not allowed to enter any club KO plus any team Comps

 

[HomerJSimpson]

If you don't have a C handicap then you can't win any qualifying comp and not allowed to enter any club KO

Would seem to be the concise and correct answer

 

[rosecott]

If you don't have a C handicap then you can't win any qualifying comp and not allowed to enter any club KO plus any team Comps

I assume you mean at your club, not generally.

Ooops, should have read the original question.

 

[2blue]

If you don't have a C handicap then you can't win any qualifying comp and not allowed to enter any club KO plus any team Comps

So I guess you can still enter Q Comps to get your 'c' back but not win prizes.... so do you have them sign-in in the normal way?

 

[Robster59]

We're pretty much the same as all of the above.
I you are playing for handicap in a comp you still sign in at the Pro shop but do not put your score in the computer. Instead you just mark it for handicap and put it in the box.

 

[2blue]

We're pretty much the same as all of the above.
I you are playing for handicap in a comp you still sign in at the Pro shop but do not put your score in the computer. Instead you just mark it for handicap and put it in the box.

Yeah, we do similar for 3 cards to establish h/cap but to re-gain C status the score would have to go in the computer & be submitted in the Comp.... or is there another way?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yeah, we do similar for 3 cards to establish h/cap but to re-gain C status the score would have to go in the computer & be submitted in the Comp.... or is there another way?

The guys with Non C status can still put their scores into the system when playing a comp - so they still go to CDH

Or you put it through as a supplementary

But there is no reason why they can't be put through with the Comp scores

 

[2blue]

The guys with Non C status can still put their scores into the system when playing a comp - so they still go to CDH

Or you put it through as a supplementary

But there is no reason why they can't be put through with the Comp scores

How I was seeing it Phil.... I presume they don't pay entry so can't win the Comps or money & a 'Comment' note such as 'Regaining C status' goes against them on the result sheet.... ah, yes, or just go as a Supp, yes of course:thup:

 

[Robster59]

Yeah, we do similar for 3 cards to establish h/cap but to re-gain C status the score would have to go in the computer & be submitted in the Comp.... or is there another way?

The person playing for handicap doesn't put there score in to the scores for the medal. The card is taken by a member of the handicap committee and is then put into the computer separately by them.

 

[2blue]

The person playing for handicap doesn't put there score in to the scores for the medal. The card is taken by a member of the handicap committee and is then put into the computer separately by them.

Thanks... rather like signing up for a Supplementary then so their score doesn't show in the Comp result. Just wondering if they are allowed to enter the 2's ?? I guess it could be acceptable as quite separate from the Comp. & gives them some further interest, perhaps.
At the moment those without C can enter & win Comp monies but not go on Honours Boards.... however this is now being questioned by established members.

 

[duncan mackie]

At the moment those without C can enter & win Comp monies but not go on Honours Boards.... however this is now being questioned by established members.

We are able to compete in non trophy events (effectively board events are what we designate trophy ones).

This means you can win and collect monthly comps
If they are a qualifier for a wider event (eg PGA, EGU) you cannot go on to represent the club (even if you subsequently become a (c).

All knockouts are trophy events.

In practice the absence of a (c) really has no inherent reflection on a player's ability relative to their handicap. If anything it is more likely to mean that they should be higher (because they haven't proved that they are able to play to their current) than the other way. Anyone can retain a (c) without any relevance to their capability if they choose to.

 

[2blue]

We are able to compete in non trophy events (effectively board events are what we designate trophy ones).

This means you can win and collect monthly comps
If they are a qualifier for a wider event (eg PGA, EGU) you cannot go on to represent the club (even if you subsequently become a (c).

All knockouts are trophy events.

In practice the absence of a (c) really has no inherent reflection on a player's ability relative to their handicap. If anything it is more likely to mean that they should be higher (because they haven't proved that they are able to play to their current) than the other way. Anyone can retain a (c) without any relevance to their capability if they choose to.

Except they could have raised their standard by playing lots of social golf then 'targeting' a lucrative Comp...... many members may suggest.
I get what you are saying Duncan & I don't want to be excluding folk just for the sake of it rather more to ensure that things are fair to all. We have some 40 to 50 Q Comps a year as well as Supplementary opportunities so folk have little reason to be Non-C.... or am I missing something?
As always many thanks for your response & time :thup:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

We keep it simple. A non active (no c against handicap) you cannot enter a competition. You can put your name down and get drawn (if you want a booked time) but simply sign into PSI and submit the card for handicapping purposes. No fee paid to enter

 

[louise_a]

We now have some players with club handicaps ie over 36 (28 for men), they are allowed to play in and win 9 hole competitions. Club handicaps are different from inactive handicaps though.