Player failed to organise match

[Parmo]

I have a situation that when I won a cup match and gone through to the next stage the person whose name is at the top has to organise the game and hasn't... The issue has started when I repeatedly asked one guy when he was organising the match to no success and the comp sec put me through due to the fact he hadn't given me three dates. Now in another comp this other fella gave me one date and I went on holiday at short notice for two weeks and when I got back I got an arsey call saying the cut off was tomorrow and I needed to sort an extension...! I thought about this and this fella had over 6 weeks to sort a game and would only play these matches on a Monday night which is a no can do for me as I work and he wouldn't put his own matches on weekends aside. The end result is that the comp sec has yet again put me through...

Anyway before this stated I stated to a member that its up to the name above mine to arrange games like I have done myself and if they don't I go through which was met with disgust as he thinks we should flip a coin, I wouldn't mind if it wasn't comps I want to win but not rabbits trophy and rabbits champion comp.

Am I in the wrong and should have flipped? Should I flip now?

 

[Twire]

No your not in the wrong. We have the same at out club, where the person at the top of the draw should organise the match. We also have to give 3 dates, but 2 of those have to be weekends.

I do find it sad though, when 2 grown men can't organise a game of golf at a time when it suits both parties. I would rather play than get the game by default, and have done the organising myself when I'm having time off in the period when it's supposed to be played.

 

[Parmo]

I did try and organise it and both players where dismissive and said we had plenty of time.

 

[KeefG]

A similar situation happened in my old golf society fella.

We had a singles knockout comp and, if memory serves, we had 4 rounds before the final. One particular lad, for various reasons, got through all 4 knockout rounds as a bye and got to the final and won.

The amount of stick he got from everyone else was a bit ridiculous to be honest as it almost felt like he won the entire thing by default.

If I was in your shoes I would do everything in my powers to ensure the match/matches went ahead, once you've done that then your conscience is clear in my opinion.

 

[viscount17]

Similar set up for the society, top name organizes, and offers three dates only one which has to be a weekend. We have an advantage in that we can finish at midday on a Friday so most games are played then or after 4.00 weekdays.
There is a lot of flexibility in the dates, and while one or two may have had to withdraw I don't know of anyone being dq'd because they couldn't sort a game.

I'm playing our first round doubles on Friday, nearly a month late, due to a death in the family of one of our opponents. No hassle, everyone adjusts.

 

[Parmo]

I think the point to me on one of them was he was booking rounds away and things 6+ weeks ago, when in fact he could of booked a weekend at the beginning of the month and we played it, he didnt and wanted to do what he wanted too and me work around him and end up booking a days leave on a monday just to fit him in when he hadnt once thought about my work situation, so I explained to comp sec no three dates have been given but one arsey phone call.

 

[USER1999]

This is exactly why I never put my name down for knock out comps. Especially 4 ball ones. No one ever wants to play at the beginning of the time period, someone is always ill/on holiday/suffer bad form/dog dead/etc and so it always comes down to the deadline, when it is raining. Why 4 blokes can't sort out a date is beyond me, but they can't. Ever.

TBH, it would help if clubs had email addresses in the diary, as a round robin email of the available dates, started by the top listed player would stop all the myriad of phone calls that are needed to fix up one match.

A rule that all knockouts are weekend events would also help, but we have a winter pairs thing which is weekend only, and you still get morons saying they don't play at the weeekend. Why enter the thing in the first place.

Obviously, there would have to be a penalty of suspension if the email addresses were used for forwarding smut and junk.

To me, it takes two to fix a game, you should both get scrubbed.

 

[Parmo]

To me, it takes two to fix a game, you should both get scrubbed.

Sorry but the rules state the top name organises the match.... Hence the reason why I did so in my previous rounds.

Some people...

 

[Ste_Denial]

i dont play in comps, but by the sounds of it the rlues seem fair and i have to agree that it shouldnt be hard work to organise a game

 

[Smiffy]

This is exactly why I never put my name down for knock out comps.

Nope.
You just like Stablefords where you can shoot the lights out with your Mickey Mouse handicap

 

[DCB]

Although in this case the top named player in the draw has to make the arrangements, Parmo has asked his opponent for dates and not had a positive response, hence in this situation Parmo rightly goes through. If the second named played just sits back and waits, then that is just as bad as the first named not being proactive.

Oh the joys of the KO comps.

 

[Parmo]

I think next year I shall stick to weekly comps and majors and avoid these matches.

 

[jammydodger]

I feel Parmo was right intaking the tie because even though he wasnt the one supposed to do the organising at least he took the bull by the horns and tried to sort something out. The other bloke is just one of those typical idiots who thinks the world revolves around him , we've all come across them.

We too have the rule that the top named player should give 3 dates etc but as soon as the deadline for the last rounds matches is over i'm straight on the phone to organise the match , whether i'm first or second. Cant stand people who leave things to the last minute and hate people who arent punctual , last round of the singles I claimed the first hole as my oppo was late by 15 mins getting to the tee. In my mind theres only very few excuses to turn up late and if I can make it on time then so should they , its just plain rude not to. (still lost though )

 

[HomerJSimpson]

At my club it is the joint responsibilty of both players/pairs to get the match arranged or both pairs are D/Q'd. That way it takes the responsibility off one person to keep doing all the chasing. Seems to work perfectly well

 

[freddielong]

This seems to be the way its done at all clubs you won't always be at the bottom so it doesn't always go your way. You have to have a system to sort these matches out and this way seems to be as fair as any, if there was no system it would be choas.

 

[Robobum]

The fairest thing I've seen was in a previous club where the following line (or similarly worded) was at the bottom of the knockout comp rules:

"If a mutually agreeable date cannot found then the match must be played @ 08:00 on the last day that the round must be played by. If only one player/ pair turns up, they shall proceed to the next round. If neither player/ pair turn up, both are disqualified"

 

[Macster]

I think its ridiculous that the 'top' player has to arrange things.

At my Club, its a dual responsibility, and if the match doesnt get played because neither grown men can find a suitable time, then both go out.

Sure, if one has repeatedly tried to arrange, the committee would fall in favour perhaps, but its not a granted.....

Grow up, both arrange it..........*shakes head*