Picked up my ball in error in fringe

[Liverbirdie]

Playing in a machplay singles game tonight and 2 of us hit the par 3 green in one.

My opponent says your ball is in the fringe. I was further away from the hole, so me to go first.

20 seconds later - Blonde moment - I then marked my ball then picked it up in error, forgetting it was off the green.

I then made my oppo aware of what I had done, as he had not seen me do it.

I said it may be a 1 shot penalty, maybe a 2 shot, possibly even loss of hole as it was matchplay.

I replaced my ball back next to my marker, then holed the putt with my second shot.

My oppo got a 3. No-one was on any shots.

Did I halve the hole, if a 1 shot penalty or is it a 2 shot penalty, or even loss of hole in matchplay?

I looked on the R and A site for a bit, but closest I could get was rule 18-2, but it just says a 1 shot penalty.

I won the match anyway, and we always kept in mind that this hole could have been a loss or a halve for me, but interested to know, as it does have an effect on our OOM points.

Thanks.:thup:

 

[backwoodsman]

1 shot penalty - so a half. 18-2 doesn't differentiate between the two forms of play. 1 shot penalty for both.

 

[atticusfinch]

closest I could get was rule 18-2,

You couldn't get any closer with a micrometer.

 

[bluewolf]

Knob.........
who did you beat????

 

[North Mimms]

I've done this twice in trophy comps. Once the penalty kept me out of the prizes, the other time it didn't.
Now when I see my ball is on the fringe, I stuff my right hand firmly in my pocket to stop me from marking it in error!

 

[Liverbirdie]

Knob.........
who did you beat????

Karl.

He was 1 up after 1.
I then won 5 out of the next 6.
Out of the next 6 he deffo won 5, with this hole possibly making 6 of them won.
We were keeping it in mind that he was then either 1 up or 2 up.
I then won the next 4, so luckily it didn't matter too much in the end.

Thanks for your input people, it mentioned that it was a 1 stroke penalty, but wasn't sure if it was the right rule, and didn't mention anything different for matchplay. I just wanted to make sure, the people in the NW OOM will know why I need clarification, as every win on a hole gets extra points, its not just the match result for this comp we're doing.

Cheers.:thup:

 

[louise_a]

I have done it twice in comps, you feel like an idiot! I now tell myself, its on the fringe don't mark it!

 

[cookelad]

I have done it twice in comps, you feel like an idiot! I now tell myself, its on the fringe don't mark it!

Strangely enough I nearly did it last weekend, put the marker behind the ball ready to pick it up and luckily it dawned on me!

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Karl.

He was 1 up after 1.
I then won 5 out of the next 6.
Out of the next 6 he deffo won 5, with this hole possibly making 6 of them won.
We were keeping it in mind that he was then either 1 up or 2 up.
I then won the next 4, so luckily it didn't matter too much in the end.

Thanks for your input people, it mentioned that it was a 1 stroke penalty, but wasn't sure if it was the right rule, and didn't mention anything different for matchplay. I just wanted to make sure, the people in the NW OOM will know why I need clarification, as every win on a hole gets extra points, its not just the match result for this comp we're doing.

Cheers.:thup:

For some reason, I thought that you couldn't proceeed in match play with two scores in mind? I may/very likely am wrong, but I thought it had to be settled and agreed at the time?

 

[duncan mackie]

For some reason, I thought that you couldn't proceeed in match play with two scores in mind? I may/very likely am wrong, but I thought it had to be settled and agreed at the time?

no, that's exactly how it should have proceeded.

"that's a 1 shot penalty and the hole is halved"
"no, I think it's a 2 shot penalty and I'm claiming the hole as a result"
"OK, I understand your claim and we will refer it for a ruling when we get in - mean time the match status is one of 2 possible scores"

 

[palindromicbob]

For some reason, I thought that you couldn't proceeed in match play with two scores in mind? I may/very likely am wrong, but I thought it had to be settled and agreed at the time?

Can't proceed by playing 2 balls as you would in stroke play but the opponent should make a claim where there is a dispute before proceeding under rule 2-5.

A rule of thumb for future would be that where a 1 stroke penalty mentioned then this is equal in both match and stroke play formats. 2 stroke penalty in stroke play = loss of hole in matchplay.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

no, that's exactly how it should have proceeded.

"that's a 1 shot penalty and the hole is halved"
"no, I think it's a 2 shot penalty and I'm claiming the hole as a result"
"OK, I understand your claim and we will refer it for a ruling when we get in - mean time the match status is one of 2 possible scores"

Ahhh brilliant. I'm getting confused with the point about not being able to play two balls in matchplay.

Thanks for clearing that up! (and palindromicbob as well!)

 

[Liverbirdie]

no, that's exactly how it should have proceeded.

"that's a 1 shot penalty and the hole is halved"
"no, I think it's a 2 shot penalty and I'm claiming the hole as a result"
"OK, I understand your claim and we will refer it for a ruling when we get in - mean time the match status is one of 2 possible scores"

Thanks Duncan, where you there?

Exactly what we did.