Pedro rode into town

Who is he seriously cheesed off with???

Is it you for the title of this thread??

Is it you for calling his handicap a joke??
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I never said his handicap was a joke. As his partner its in my interest for him to play off as high a handicap as possible to give us the best chance of winning. If he gets cut its then down to me to pull my own game up to continue to help the team.

As for the title, there had been some Pedro comments from some on here in recent weeks anyway. Fortunately most of those were from those that actually know the guy and have played with him and so to a degree are in a position to have such banter. As for the rest, HTL gets right when he says its easy to have a pop from the sanctuary of a monitor and keyboard. Me thinks a huge dose of jealousy for a guy a) playing exceptionally well at the moment and b) winning something.
 
It was part of a cunning plan Smiffy but you've played against HTL on numerous courses and know that 17 is a joke handicap.
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Did someone steal your identity and write this one?? :o
 
Who is he seriously cheesed off with???

Is it you for the title of this thread??

Is it you for calling his handicap a joke??
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I never said his handicap was a joke. As his partner its in my interest for him to play off as high a handicap as possible to give us the best chance of winning. If he gets cut its then down to me to pull my own game up to continue to help the team.

As for the title, there had been some Pedro comments from some on here in recent weeks anyway. Fortunately most of those were from those that actually know the guy and have played with him and so to a degree are in a position to have such banter. As for the rest, HTL gets right when he says its easy to have a pop from the sanctuary of a monitor and keyboard. Me thinks a huge dose of jealousy for a guy a) playing exceptionally well at the moment and b) winning something.
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The thing is though homer he is not playing exceptionally well if he is not scoring in comps.

He may be playing Friendlys and better balls well but they are not for handicapping purpose which seems to me is what all the fuss is over.

IMO HTL has done nothing wrong. Obviously had a good round yesterday but is finding trouble scoring in comps therefore his handicap has to be right so he is no cheat or bandit.
 
He has one stellar day, albeit in a better ball comp, and now he's a bandit.
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But Homer. You haven't really helped his cause with quotes like this have you????

As most of you know he's far better than a 17 handicapper and suffice to say his bandito reputation has now lept from the forum to the bar Well done Pedro but don't forget to take the sombrero off before you go to the bar.
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You've played against HTL on numerous courses and know that 17 is a joke handicap
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Smiffy (and others) what I meant and you perhaps more than those that haven't played with him will know, is that he rocks up, moans about how badly he's hitting it and walks away with the cash regularly. Look at the London Club in difficult conditions back in March. Put a card in his hand as he has said himself and he can't get his head right and can't score.

It is true that there were comments in the bar but these were actually in jest and most were pleased that a newbie had come in and won a big event. At the end of the day, he knows his game is better than his handicap indicates but until he can get a cut thats his mark.

Maybe I was worng in how I pitched the thread but at the time I thought it would be a chance for others to say well done as they normally do whenever anyone has a decent day and that it wouldn't be blown out of all context. Cest la vie
 
a)I never said his handicap was a joke.

b) As his partner its in my interest for him to play off as high a handicap as possible to give us the best chance of winning.

c)If he gets cut its then down to me to pull my own game up to continue to help the team.
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a) You did.
b) Bit of a selfish attitude.
c) It's that easy of course.

I did say earlier that I wished you hadn't started this thread Homer. Your use of the word "bandit" and calling Hywels handicap a joke was bound to cause response, some of it good, some of it not so good.
I have said nothing that I wouldn't say to Hywels face, and as I've stated...I like the guy. A lot.
I just said I wouldn't play him for money.
 
a)I never said his handicap was a joke.

b) As his partner its in my interest for him to play off as high a handicap as possible to give us the best chance of winning.

c)If he gets cut its then down to me to pull my own game up to continue to help the team.
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a) You did.
b) Bit of a selfish attitude.
c) It's that easy of course.

I did say earlier that I wished you hadn't started this thread Homer. Your use of the word "bandit" and calling Hywels handicap a joke was bound to cause response, some of it good, some of it not so good.
I have said nothing that I wouldn't say to Hywels face, and as I've stated...I like the guy. A lot.
I just said I wouldn't play him for money.
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OK I did say it's a joke handicap. What I meant and I'll explain it simply, is that in NON-COMPETITIVE play he plays with a great deal more freedom and so scores so much better than his handicap. HE IS NOT A BANDIT OR HANDICAP PROTECTOR.

as for b) why is that selfish. We all enter competitions to try and do well so of course its in my interest for us to get the maximum allowance. If and when he gets down to a lower mark we'll just have to try and be as competitive which brings me onto your other point. Of course its not that easy and with my erratic game probably even harder.

At the end of the day we won yesterday. He played brilliantly. I helped a bit. He played off his official mark and in front of the captain and h/cap secrtary. They were pleased. I'm pleaed and HTL is quite chuffed too (especially with his game). They was some banter in the clubhouse but there always is whoever wins.

It strikes me that some people are more keen to pick up on what I'm writing and how its written (but I'm use to a certain faction on here never agreeing or even liking what I have to say but its all part of the forum tapestry) than actually seeing the whole picture and actually congratulating a guy who played well in tough conditions.
 
Tell you what Homer, if I had been your partner, I would be seriously hacked off with you for what you started and wrote on this one. You would have been looking for a yet another new playing partner

In fact, if HTL does get the cuts that he deserves, I suppose you will be looking for another rapidly improving player to help you in your desire to get your name up on the boards.

:p
 
As for the title, there had been some Pedro comments from some on here in recent weeks anyway. Fortunately most of those were from those that actually know the guy and have played with him and so to a degree are in a position to have such banter. As for the rest, HTL gets right when he says its easy to have a pop from the sanctuary of a monitor and keyboard.
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What, so, wether right or wrong, we're only allowed to comment on this thread if we're part of the clique?

You need to bear in mind homer that the whole of the internet world can see this forum and most of those reading don't have a clue who you or anyone else is, and the first thing that many reading this thread are going to think is that HTL is a bandit at golf, all from your thread title and comments in the first post!

Bob, can you see if Tesco's have any really comfortable chairs please?
 
Tell you what Homer, if I had been your partner, I would be seriously hacked off with you for what you started and wrote on this one. You would have been looking for a yet another new playing partner

In fact, if HTL does get the cuts that he deserves, I suppose you will be looking for another rapidly improving player to help you in your desire to get your name up on the boards. :p
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I'm fortunate to have a partner who understood where I was trying to come from then and who isn't overly fussed if my joking comments were blown way out of context.

I've been a member of the club for about 12 years over two stints and in all that time I've won one honours board event (on my own) so I think the suggestion of dropping a partner if they get cut or don't come up to scratch is laughable (as I find a lot of your comments towards me). I have had three regular partners in that time and have entered all of the pairs events very much in hope than expectation and have had more acquaintance with the bottom of the table than threatening the engraver
 
As a neutral, never having met or played with any of the participants, this has been a very interesting thread.

I can empathise with HTL greatly.

I would consider myself better than my 18 handicap and I regularly get semi-sarcastic comments about my playing ability in friendly games and betterballs - some of whom are the first to ask me to play in their am-am teams.

Yet, I cannot manage a cut in competition. I've played everything bar one comp this year (cousin's wedding) and all I've done is succeeded in going up 0.1,

It is annoying me greatly as I want to achieve as low a handicap as possible but just cannot seem to so it. I'm now playing mid-week medals and any appropriate open I can to try and get a cut.

The kind of well-meaning "bandit" comments don't help in trying to achieve the cut I'm looking for. I could go the handicap secretary and ask him to cut me but then I would have no sense of achievement at all. I'm not interested in pot hunting just playing well and becoming as low a handicapper as I can through my own efforts.

I say, more power to HTL, keep playing well, putting the cards in and, hopefully, you'll achieve the cuts you deserve.
 
Just checked my post Homer and, as I intended, I did put a :p after the comment.

Still, if you want to feel persecuted, carry on by all means.

You obviously have a problem with those who may on occasion have a different perspective to you and post accordingly - after all this is an open furum and we are all entitled to post however we want (within the guidelines), but if you took a bit of time to put brain in gear before typing, read your and other's posts before pressing the continue button, then you might, just possibly, save yourself a bit of grief.

This thread is a perfect example.

:mad: :cool: :) :( :o :D :eek: :rolleyes: :D :D ;) :p

Choose whichever smiley you want or ignore if you prefer.
 
I've just logged back onto this having posted yesterday and am a bit surprised by the response to my post.

Firstly, i was acutely aware of the fact the thread was Homer's, and that his friend and playing partner (who i know a few of you know and respect in the real world)had had a very good round of golf and for that deserves a hefty pat on the back. And, i know that that was the point of Homer's opening post. I started my post with 'Playing devils advocate'. Genuinely, i was bloody joking!

I was joking because there's always a chat going on on the forum regarding bandits and that its cheating, im sure Homer agrees. I do agree with everything Smiffy has said on this thread too though.

I have commented previously that my handicap seems to be lagging behind a lot of my play but that I enter all the comps at my club and they know all my scores. I hope to get cut every week but i dont always (some weeks I am just crap).

Finally, just want to apologise to HTL on here for seemingly starting this. I was having a joke, and certainly not trying to be a knob from behind my laptop, i guess my joke got out of hand later on the thread. I thought the 'Playing devils advocate' bit would not lead to all of the above.

HTL, well played for your round, and well done for carrying Homer home.




PS. Smiffy:
"It could have been on the crappiest golf course in the country, SSS67 par 70, 5400 yards short".
That's my course you cheeky git. ;)
 
Not got the slightest problem with the forum per se and by all means put what you like on here as is your perogative. However a smiley is not necessarily a waiver for how a post may sound upon reciept. After all this is the whole problem with this thread. All I wanted to do was mockingly congratulate my partner on what was an exceptional performance in front of the capatin and have a friendly dig at his handicap (as a mate I like to think I can do that without HTL having an issue). Having gone through Homergate and the casitgation on here I can handle most crap hurled at me. This thread though seems to have taken it to a whole new level and to be honest was never what it was about.

So many seem so fussed on what and how I write and so keen to have a snipe. I'm fair game and accept that. I can take the abuse and brickbats but it's suppose to be about golf. If you don't agree with what I've written then fine. My view will be different to yours but don't start making it personal. I will reply. If you really, really don't like me (again fair enough) or my answers then don't read or if I get up your nose that much just block me. However it is a golfing forum and so lets all try (and I include myself) to get back to discussing something more relevant.

Now about Tiger.......
 
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