Orikoru's Swing Thread (with videos)

Orikoru said:
Well yeah, I'm usually playing a virtual course on the Trackman so I have to play a particular shot.
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Id be ditching the trackman and focussing on targets down the range as well, including working on a psr
 
hambugerpete said:
Id be ditching the trackman and focussing on targets down the range as well, including working on a psr
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I do aim at objects to get a line, of course. There wouldn't be any point in swinging without aiming at anything - does anyone do that?? But I can't really do that in terms of distance, since the balls are of extremely variable quality at my local ranges.
 
Orikoru said:
I do aim at objects to get a line, of course. There wouldn't be any point in swinging without aiming at anything - does anyone do that?? But I can't really do that in terms of distance, since the balls are of extremely variable quality at my local ranges.
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Yes, you do , as seen in your videos. No set up, alignment etc. just raking balls. Try to practice a bit more like you want to play. As thats the point of it
 
I really need to be able to do a half swing from out of the trees, keeping the flight low, but achieving as much run-distance as possible.
Plenty of practice at that over the years!
 
hambugerpete said:
Yes, you do , as seen in your videos. No set up, alignment etc. just raking balls. Try to practice a bit more like you want to play. As thats the point of it
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What are you talking about? I do practice with the Trackman virtual course for the exact reason that it's more like playing actual golf. If you're judging by the videos though, they're mostly from a different range actually - the one nearest to many doesn't have Trackman, I just occasionally pop there on a Tuesday lunch break if the weather's good. I'm still aiming at something every single time though. What would be the point otherwise??
 
Orikoru said:
Another weekend of being beaten up by golf. I've now become the classic golfer who stripes it on the range, but under pressure out on the course, my backswing just becomes too long again and my strike becomes awful. Seemingly nothing I can do about it. Got three matches coming up in the next two weekends, so this week I'm going to try really exaggerating a 'short swing' but doing half-swings and three-quarter swings. I might even hit 50 balls with all half-swings, it probably can't hurt as a bit of a reset.

Why is it so hard to stake your driving range swing to the course? As soon as there's a bit of jeopardy on it, the swing relapses to doing whatever it wants. 🙈
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Orikoru said:
Another weekend of being beaten up by golf. I've now become the classic golfer who stripes it on the range, but under pressure out on the course, my backswing just becomes too long again and my strike becomes awful. Seemingly nothing I can do about it. Got three matches coming up in the next two weekends, so this week I'm going to try really exaggerating a 'short swing' but doing half-swings and three-quarter swings. I might even hit 50 balls with all half-swings, it probably can't hurt as a bit of a reset.

Why is it so hard to stake your driving range swing to the course? As soon as there's a bit of jeopardy on it, the swing relapses to doing whatever it wants. 🙈
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The difference between pros and the vast majority of amateurs is handling the pressure part.

Some pros handle it better than others as you will notice every week on the PGA, LPGA, DP Tour etc, and even more so in Majors.

If you are consistently a better hitter on the range and try do all the right things as you mentioned you do, the answer is in your breathing.

Your goal should be to try get your heart rate somewhere around your more relaxed heart rate at the range.

Many pros these days play with tech that measures heart rate and sometimes oxygen levels and more. They learn from the data after each round in stressful situations.

If you are confident and relaxed on the range, your goal is to be just as relaxed as that when you feel yourself getting anxious or even angry on the course.

Controlling emotions and thoughts is hard enough but slowing your breathing down allows you to still play solidly and closer to your range form when the pressure is on. It also focuses your attention on just the shot at hand, of which the importance cannot be understated.

End note...A pro can hit 1000 balls a day for 10 years but if he /she gets nervous or angry during tournament play they can shoot bad scores quite easily and often do.
 
Orikoru said:
What are you talking about? I do practice with the Trackman virtual course for the exact reason that it's more like playing actual golf. If you're judging by the videos though, they're mostly from a different range actually - the one nearest to many doesn't have Trackman, I just occasionally pop there on a Tuesday lunch break if the weather's good. I'm still aiming at something every single time though. What would be the point otherwise??
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That's the point youre not really , youre hitting a ball then grabbing another from the trough , if thats how you play on course then fair do's, but id recommend practicing the whole routine in spells too.
 
#NotTigerWoods said:
The difference between pros and the vast majority of amateurs is handling the pressure part.

Some pros handle it better than others as you will notice every week on the PGA, LPGA, DP Tour etc, and even more so in Majors.

If you are consistently a better hitter on the range and try do all the right things as you mentioned you do, the answer is in your breathing.

Your goal should be to try get your heart rate somewhere around your more relaxed heart rate at the range.

Many pros these days play with tech that measures heart rate and sometimes oxygen levels and more. They learn from the data after each round in stressful situations.

If you are confident and relaxed on the range, your goal is to be just as relaxed as that when you feel yourself getting anxious or even angry on the course.

Controlling emotions and thoughts is hard enough but slowing your breathing down allows you to still play solidly and closer to your range form when the pressure is on. It also focuses your attention on just the shot at hand, of which the importance cannot be understated.

End note...A pro can hit 1000 balls a day for 10 years but if he /she gets nervous or angry during tournament play they can shoot bad scores quite easily and often do.
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The difficulty is that it doesn't feel like an emotional response. It's more like I just simply forget everything I've practiced and worked on for the last six months as soon as I'm playing a round that matters. And every fault I had last year returns in an instant. I guess you're right, it's that mentality edge that elite athletes have that separates them. Somehow I need to focus on what I need to do to swing well rather than the occasion.

hambugerpete said:
That's the point youre not really , youre hitting a ball then grabbing another from the trough , if thats how you play on course then fair do's, but id recommend practicing the whole routine in spells too.
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Well of course you get another ball after hitting the first ball? 😂 I don't really understand. I look at where I'm aiming, I take a practice swing, thinking about all the things I'm trying to do with my swing, then I try and execute those things when I hit the ball. What is wrong with that? It's pretty much identical to my pre-shot routine on the course as well. Not sure what more I can do for you.
 
Orikoru said:
The difficulty is that it doesn't feel like an emotional response. It's more like I just simply forget everything I've practiced and worked on for the last six months as soon as I'm playing a round that matters. And every fault I had last year returns in an instant. I guess you're right, it's that mentality edge that elite athletes have that separates them. Somehow I need to focus on what I need to do to swing well rather than the occasion.
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100%. Realistically your pre shot routine and actual shot should be monotonous and free of any outcome based thought. You can have a laugh with your mates for the other 4 hours that youre not over your shot.

In an emotionless nutshell, Hit it. Have a laugh, Find it. Hit it again.
 
#NotTigerWoods said:
100%. Realistically your pre shot routine and actual shot should be monotonous and free of any outcome based thought. You can have a laugh with your mates for the other 4 hours that youre not over your shot.

In an emotionless nutshell, Hit it. Have a laugh, Find it. Hit it again.
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That is exactly how I played over the weekend to be fair, I enjoyed it, other than the scores I got. 😆 It's just frustrating that the changes I'm making still haven't become 'automatic' after six months, and as soon as I stop focusing on it, I'm still going back to last year's swing. Feel like I need to exaggerate the changes more now in practice, make the swing extremely short there, and hopefully it ends up somewhere in the middle.
 
Driving range this evening. Still trying so hard to shorten this swing. Went with two swing thoughts: keep the club head low on the takeaway, and keep the hands low on the way back. (Because when my swing gets too long I can really feel my hands kind of flick the club up behind my head.)

This is as short as I can go without feeling like I'm literally just chipping it, haha. I'm not unhappy with the results though, I just need to work hard to keep my swing like this and I'd be pretty happy.


Funny thought just occurred to me - when I'm pitching I do a half-swing, but I've never videoed one of them. It's probably actually about 80%. 🤣


Edit: I've just watched the first video in this thread again as a comparison, and I really think today's swing is a little bit deeper and not quite as steep, so two big plus points. Do others agree?
 
Last night on a nine hole practice round, I experimented with actually aiming straight at the target, rather than 20 yards left expecting a fade. Reason for this is that I've lately been aiming left and going straight there or pulling it slightly further left, and not slicing as much as before. It was working alright, until I hit one slightly sliced one on the 7th, but then an enormous hook on the 9th! I hit two hooks last week on my golf trip as well, in a row (first and provisional), so I guess I now have a hook in the locker. Great. Never used to do that at all.

Driving is such an annoying balancing act for me. I go from hitting slices all last year, to making a decent job of fixing it, but then I start hitting left pulls and big hooks instead. So I guess I'll dial that back and go back to slicing it again, and repeat the process for the rest of my life on this earth. Golf is fun isn't it?

On a serious note, I'm guessing that hitting the odd hook means that my swing path is better than it used to be, and maybe less out-to-in, but I'll get the hook if I accidentally shut the face too much on the way through??
 
Orikoru said:
Last night on a nine hole practice round, I experimented with actually aiming straight at the target, rather than 20 yards left expecting a fade. Reason for this is that I've lately been aiming left and going straight there or pulling it slightly further left, and not slicing as much as before. It was working alright, until I hit one slightly sliced one on the 7th, but then an enormous hook on the 9th! I hit two hooks last week on my golf trip as well, in a row (first and provisional), so I guess I now have a hook in the locker. Great. Never used to do that at all.

Driving is such an annoying balancing act for me. I go from hitting slices all last year, to making a decent job of fixing it, but then I start hitting left pulls and big hooks instead. So I guess I'll dial that back and go back to slicing it again, and repeat the process for the rest of my life on this earth. Golf is fun isn't it?

On a serious note, I'm guessing that hitting the odd hook means that my swing path is better than it used to be, and maybe less out-to-in, but I'll get the hook if I accidentally shut the face too much on the way through??
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Is it a hook or a just a pull ?
 
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