Online Petition - Help save Blue Mountain Golf Club

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I watched BBC News South last night - according to the Tory council leader those i the area impacted by the house building will get used to it. So that's OK.

But the councils do have a problem as they need to find land for new housing. This is a big issue in Waverley as the risk will be many little piecemeal developments all over the place - on green belt land or land otherwise protected or identified of 'special interest'. And once development is established in a location then iin time the pressure will be on to extend it.

But in Waverley the huge brownfield Dunsfold Airfield site is sitting there - in the middle of very pleasant Surrey Hills countryside - with currently very limited access infrastructure. What do you do?

 

[sawtooth]

Yes I saw that clip as well.

He doesnt live around Binfield and the affected area. I wonder what his view would be if it was on his own doorstep?

 

[In_The_Rough]

Same old really, long as it is not in my back yard I do not give a stuff

 

[6inchcup]

it is getting a fact of life in this current climate for councils and landlords to make a fast buck and sell of the likes of golf courses and playing fields to developers,each council has to by law have built a number of properties in their towns each year,now a nice piece of land with mature tress and nice vistas is going to be worth more to a builder who can charge more for the detached 5 bed houses he can build hence the value of buying a golf course as opposed to some brown field site in an industrial part of the town only fit for bed sits and one bed flats for the dole brigade,heard from a very good source LIVERPOOL council is looking at shutting two courses it owns and selling of a big chunk to a developer for 150 executive houses in ALLERTON,and up near NETHERLEY they are building another estate on land that was supposed to be football pitches,but like i said the millions these golf courses sell for is too hard to resist.

 

[richart]

I think we should have a forum meet there before it closes. I haven't been back to Binfield since I left there in about 1970.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I think we should have a forum meet there before it closes. I haven't been back to Binfield since I left there in about 1970.

Think that would be a good idea :thup:

 

[moondogs]

I live a mile up the road (in Billingbear) and while I haven't played Blue Mountain in a while, I used to enjoy the course and will miss it. The saddest part of all is that I don't think there is the infrastructure in the local area to be able to cope with a load more traffic. That part of town already gets snarled up and the whole thing just reeks of people seeking a fast buck rather than thinking of the long term and what's best for the area. There are new estates planned all around Binfield and Wokingham and it's sad to see some lovely areas of land being turned over to build these identikit, tiny-roomed and over-priced houses that will last for 50 years max.

Will be sad to see Blue Mountain go

 

[delc]

I watched BBC News South last night - according to the Tory council leader those i the area impacted by the house building will get used to it. So that's OK.

But the councils do have a problem as they need to find land for new housing. This is a big issue in Waverley as the risk will be many little piecemeal developments all over the place - on green belt land or land otherwise protected or identified of 'special interest'. And once development is established in a location then iin time the pressure will be on to extend it.

But in Waverley the huge brownfield Dunsfold Airfield site is sitting there - in the middle of very pleasant Surrey Hills countryside - with currently very limited access infrastructure. What do you do?

Many people, including myself enjoy airsports, which generally require decent sized airfields. It's just as bad to build on an active airfield as it is on a golf course. Most of the airfields in my area are under some sort of development threat! And what would Top Gear do without Dunsfold to race round? :angry:

 

[el marko]

Many people, including myself enjoy airsports, which generally require decent sized airfields. It's just as bad to build on an active airfield as it is on a golf course. Most of the airfields in my area are under some sort of development threat! And what would Top Gear do without Dunsfold to race round? :angry:

Probably do it in CGI, seeing as everything else they do is fake and scripted

 

[delc]

Probably do it in CGI, seeing as everything else they do is fake and scripted

Perhaps you should just play golf on a simulator, as they are quite sophisticated these days and this would save on all that land requirement (only kidding)! It generally seems to be the Municipal type golf courses that are particularly under threat, and these are the sorts of courses people start playing on without too much financial commitment. Many of them later graduate on to join private members clubs, who will probably find their sources of new members dwindling in the long run as a result of these closures. All very worrying!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I live a mile up the road (in Billingbear) and while I haven't played Blue Mountain in a while, I used to enjoy the course and will miss it. The saddest part of all is that I don't think there is the infrastructure in the local area to be able to cope with a load more traffic. That part of town already gets snarled up and the whole thing just reeks of people seeking a fast buck rather than thinking of the long term and what's best for the area. There are new estates planned all around Binfield and Wokingham and it's sad to see some lovely areas of land being turned over to build these identikit, tiny-roomed and over-priced houses that will last for 50 years max.

Will be sad to see Blue Mountain go

The problem is that not only will you have this development going up but there are plans to develop Cabbage Patch Hill between the Three Legged Cross and Wyevale Garden centre as you head that way. That traffic will only feed into that already coming out of the Blue Mountain development. The Blue Mountain site may feed out onto Forest Park and the roundabout at the top of the road from the Blue Mountain entrance but that will only clog the approach to the A329M past Coppid Beech. With plans afoot to build opposite the hotel too Bracknell will reach saturation point on the roads. No thought has gone into this and they don;t care as they live miles away.

Up for a GM meet at Blue Mountain though

 

[In_The_Rough]

The problem is that not only will you have this development going up but there are plans to develop Cabbage Patch Hill between the Three Legged Cross and Wyevale Garden centre as you head that way. That traffic will only feed into that already coming out of the Blue Mountain development. The Blue Mountain site may feed out onto Forest Park and the roundabout at the top of the road from the Blue Mountain entrance but that will only clog the approach to the A329M past Coppid Beech. With plans afoot to build opposite the hotel too Bracknell will reach saturation point on the roads. No thought has gone into this and they don;t care as they live miles away.
Up for a GM meet at Blue Mountain though

This line pretty much sums it up. With regards to muni's being the ones under threat, they will be as they are council owned and they see it as a way of lining both the councils coffers and their own. The way the councils operate and act is disgraceful IMO and it is happening everywhere. Down south, Midlands and the North. Just look at Doncaster and Rotherham councils. They are supposed to provide a service to the public and not only to most of them fail to do this for what has to be said an awful lot of money they are lining their own pockets as well

 

[delc]

People having roofs over their heads, but with nothing to do in their spare time will lead to all sorts of social problems. It's not only golf courses, but sports fields and airfields that are being sold off for development. Man does not live on bread alone! Without meaning to be too political, I blame the last Labour Government for allowing 4 million immigrants to enter the country, without considering the effects on our environment, resources and infrastructure. Our roads, drainage and sewerage systems, and just about everything can't cope any more. Hence we spend half our lives sitting in traffic jams and all the recent flooding.

 

[In_The_Rough]

People having roofs over their heads, but with nothing to do in their spare time will lead to all sorts of social problems. It's not only golf courses, but sports fields and airfields that are being sold off for development. Man does not live on bread alone! Without meaning to be too political, I blame the last Labour Government for allowing 4 million immigrants to enter the country, without considering the effects on our environment, resources and infrastructure. Our roads, drainage and sewerage systems, and just about everything can't cope any more. Hence we spend half our lives sitting in traffic jams and all the recent flooding.

Bit of an extreme view mate, do not get me wrong I hate the Labour party with a passion and the sooner they become extinct the better as far as I am concerned. But to be fair the selling off of school playing fields and other land has been happening for way before this. The councils are the main culprits as they are the ones that just seem to approve any sort of development regardless of impact so long as their properties are not near what is being proposed. The drainage cannot cope as we never dredge the streams/canals/rivers so therefore water levels keep rising. We will not spend money on this yet with keep giving away Billions in aid to foreign countries and all they do with it is seem to buy weapons and military equipment, it never goes where it should. Look at Africa and how much money has been given over there and they are still drinking out of filthy streams and washing clothes in swamps. The whole system stinks mate. of that there is no doubt

 

[delc]

Bit of an extreme view mate, do not get me wrong I hate the Labour party with a passion and the sooner they become extinct the better as far as I am concerned. But to be fair the selling off of school playing fields and other land has been happening for way before this. The councils are the main culprits as they are the ones that just seem to approve any sort of development regardless of impact so long as their properties are not near what is being proposed. The drainage cannot cope as we never dredge the streams/canals/rivers so therefore water levels keep rising. We will not spend money on this yet with keep giving away Billions in aid to foreign countries and all they do with it is seem to buy weapons and military equipment, it never goes where it should. Look at Africa and how much money has been given over there and they are still drinking out of filthy streams and washing clothes in swamps. The whole system stinks mate. of that there is no doubt

Allowing developments on flood plains hasn't exactly helped with the flooding issue. I agree that not dredging rivers etc, also hasn't helped. Remenber the old saying "There's no votes in sewerage", but maybe there might be now, after so many people have had their homes flooded!

 

[In_The_Rough]

Allowing developments on flood plains hasn't exactly helped with the flooding issue. I agree that not dredging rivers etc, also hasn't helped. Remenber the old saying "There's no votes in sewerage", but maybe there might be now, after so many people have had their homes flooded!

No flood plain development is also another criminal act simply asking for trouble. Why people buy these properties is another question that needs to be asked, is their research really that bad. With regards to votes on floods who do you vote for with that as all the parties have done sweet FA with regards to this and I cannot see them changing their stance TBH. Everyone that keeps getting flooded with no action being taken so all group together and stop paying all the rates then we may see something done. But while people keep forking out they do not give a flying------------------------------------------------------- you know what to insert there

 

[moondogs]

The problem is that not only will you have this development going up but there are plans to develop Cabbage Patch Hill between the Three Legged Cross and Wyevale Garden centre as you head that way. That traffic will only feed into that already coming out of the Blue Mountain development. The Blue Mountain site may feed out onto Forest Park and the roundabout at the top of the road from the Blue Mountain entrance but that will only clog the approach to the A329M past Coppid Beech. With plans afoot to build opposite the hotel too Bracknell will reach saturation point on the roads. No thought has gone into this and they don;t care as they live miles away.

Up for a GM meet at Blue Mountain though

Absolutely agree Homer. Live very close to Cabbage Hill Lane and the garden centre, and take that route into work every day. The infrastructure desperately needs to be upgraded before they plonk another X thousand houses down, but as you say, these sorts of details don't really seem to be of any significance to the developers or the council.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Bit of an extreme view mate, do not get me wrong I hate the Labour party with a passion and the sooner they become extinct the better as far as I am concerned

It's an aside from the topic but this sort of view is always interesting to read because of what it implies? ... a Tory government for ever and a day - Tory/UKIP coalitions? Or a resurgent LibDems? I wouldn't let too many Scottish voters hear of your wish ahead of the referendum because down that route lies a YES.

 

[In_The_Rough]

It's an aside from the topic but this sort of view is always interesting to read because of what it implies? ... a Tory government for ever and a day - Tory/UKIP coalitions? Or a resurgent LibDems? I wouldn't let too many Scottish voters hear of your wish ahead of the referendum because down that route lies a YES.

The Scottish voters can hear my views for me, I dare say they want the Tories extinct, well they virtually are in Scotland anyway. If the Scots vote Yes then fair play to them if that is the way the want to go no skin off my nose whatsoever.

 

[dufferman]

Received an email from the Binfield Village association - seems that last night the act that protects the course was officially torn up. It's become a donation drive now to raise legal fees to sue the council, which could mean the end of the road for real action. We'll have to all wait and see (and donate if we can to help save the course!).

I do play there regularly - I'll be donating.