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Good to see Manning and the Broncos written off already
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Many favourites have reached the Super Bowl failed
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MendieGK
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Absolutely agree, but Manning is god awful now. If they win, it WONT be because of him, it will be in spite of him.
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If the Broncos had a decent QB, they win that game by 20 points. Their defense shut the Patriots down most of the game and it made a change to see one of the other Pats whinging like a baby instead of Brady. And how ironic, after all the headset issues that other teams have had in Foxboro, that their MacBooks had problems during the game. That was the rest of the NFL laughing Belichick - payback is a bummer sometimes.
I can't stand Scam Newton but he was a worthy MVP this season and the Panthers will be around seven point favourites for the game.
I can't stand Scam Newton but he was a worthy MVP this season and the Panthers will be around seven point favourites for the game.
MendieGK
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Theyve opened at 3.5!!! i was shocked! already put my bet on it.
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After been out for the 7 weeks it was always going to be a scratchy performance. Osweiler is a better thrower but can't control the game yet - Manning wasn't far away from a couple more TD - couple more weeks to improve that timing and can see him being a lot better at the Super Bowl - but it's his last season
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He was horrendous before he got injured, he had one good game (conveniently against the packers). He has no arm strength, the safeties can play high, Josh Norman is probably the best cornerback in the game, and Luke Kuechly is the one of the best if not the best Linebacker in the game this year (Especially in coverage).
In the superbowl i would 100% want Manning over Brock at this stage. but to suggest he's going to improve in 2 weeks is wrong. He had 2 weeks before the Steelers game (terrible secondary) and averaged 6yds per attempt and had a passer rating of 75.
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I must of watched a differant game. The Broncos won because pats missed a PAT which meant they had to score a two pointer. Yes the pats struggled but by there standards they have not performed for half a season. Any half decent team would and have beaten the Patriots this year, not just the Broncos who yes contributed to an exciting finish In an average game. BOTH defences turned up yesterday Not just the Broncos.
If if we are playing the If game, if the Pats had a decent quarterback we would of beaten the Broncos by 21 points.
Oh how we Brits still love to kick someone when there down. Odd how no one has commented on how Belicheck had a deep and meaningful conversation with Manning at the end of the game. Big sporting gesture according to the American commentators, lost on the bitters elsewhere.
Cant stand Scam Newton, wonder why? In fact I don't even want to know. But for my two pennoth worth. A quarterback who is exciting and puts bums on seats and took being quarterback to a new level. Yeah comes across as a proper tosser. Seven point faves. What after the first quarter?
As a Neutral looking forward to what should be a good game.
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MendieGK
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How can you say he has taken the QB to a new level? he misses so many easy throws its crazy. His D has given him so many good field positions this year.
He's had 1 good year against the easiest schedule in NFL history. Credit to him for the last two playoff games but if a team has 7 turnovers, you could put anyone in at QB and theyd win.
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As a Seahawks fan, i don't even think you can give him credit for their win over us. He did nothing special that game, and could argue that he almost bottled it in the second half. The Panthers defence won that game for them when they came out the blocks so quickly.
Don't like Cam. So "me me me". Nowhere near as good as people make out, including "the best dual threat QB EVER" that i've heard from a few places.
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Prepare to be disappointed - I really can't see anything other than a blow out, unless the Panthers forget how to play football over the next 2 weeks. Their front-7 are scary and their Offense is capable of scoring both on the ground and through the air.
It will likely be deja vu from two years ago for the Broncos when the Seahawks blew them out.
Having said that, I wouldn't be upset to see Manning get another ring before his arm finally falls off!
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Because I've had to deal with Newton for about seven years in the media and a leopard never changes its spots. He is a deserving MVP on the field no doubt in 2015 but there is a stench around everyone who has dealt with him.
Wade Phillips' defensive scheme was superb for the game yesterday and shut the New England offense down better than any team throughout 2015. Brady played as well as any QB could have done. Manning was truly horrendous and twice missed open receivers for scores, Thomas down the left sideline on a 9 route and then the back-up receiver (14 can't remember his name) on the post route from the 20.
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That last sentance, I am wondering if that is what Belicheck was saying to him. There's no doubt about it he is struggling but who knows.
in a way I am glad that the Pats never got to the Super Bowl, I have a feeling they could of had a thumping. They have to sort out there rushing game. If Brady who had the longest rush of the game for the pats (11yd) is the answer then the rushing problem is serious. Close down the Gronk and the two main receivers and the pats offence is dead.
thought the Broncos pass rush was excellent and if they bring that to the Super Bowl then they have a chance.
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Trouble is, the Panthers O-Line is much better than the Pats O-Line and Cam Newton is the size of a house and runs a 4.4(ish) 40 so he's difficult to bring down.
MendieGK
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Michael Oher starts for them so it aint that great!
Aztecs27
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You say that, but he's actually played pretty solidly since moving to the right side of the line! You have to be a special type of player to be a legit Blindside tackle, and he clearly didn't have "it" at a pro level. But stick him on the other side and he's pretty serviceable.
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Yeah that's why I played LT 😉
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Tashyboy
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Seems that Belicheck agrees with you because he sacked the offensive line coordinator earlier today
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:whoo:
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One ugly win - but brilliant defensively from Denver - Elway wanted to make the team stronger after the mauling against the Seahawks. They destroyed Newton :whoo:
