Newbies shaft flex question

[Buckbeak]

Hi all,

I've played golf for a few years but I'm out of my depth when it comes to anything technical in the game.

Does the flex on a shaft differ from one shaft to the next? I need to replace my "Matrix 6m3 black tie x-flex" driver shaft. I can't find the same shaft at a reasonably price, so I was wondering if a different branded x-flex shaft would so the same job.

Last summer, my driver broke so I picked up a second hand one with a different flex from AG that looked nice. I did give it a whack on the range and seemed to be okay (I reckon there was some kind of witchcraft going on because I haven't hit the driver as well as I did since trying before i bought it!...). Anyway, I haven't been consistent with it at all, with A LOT more bad drives than good ones. So I've decided to replace the broken shaft on my old driver as I hit that very well.

Thanks!

 

[fundy]

What heads it going into? What do you call a reasonable price (these were pretty pricey shafts when launched and hold their price to some degree).

The short answer to your other question is not all other x flex shafts will do the same, albeit there are ones with similar profiles

 

[backwoodsman]

Yes, the shafts differ quite a lot. But you"ll need the guys with tne technical knowledge to tell you how to identify something that could be a reasonable equivalent.

 

[Buckbeak]

Thanks for your reply. It went into a Callaway X2 Hot. The bottom of the adapter snapped. Well I actually bought the driver for about £50 on Ebay. So didn't want to spend more than that on replacement shaft.

 

[Grant85]

The perceived wisdom seems to be that shaft flex varies from one company to the other.

Regular flex on one brand will likely be slightly different from another brand. There's also nuances like 'kick' i.e. if the shaft kicks / flexes in the mid point or lower down the shaft.

As a rule, the faster you swing, the stiffer your shafts should be. And it's also likely this will become more important for the longer clubs - like Driver - where the shaft is longer and the head bigger and possibly heavier.

Very difficult to measure these sorts of things without an experienced club fitter and a launch monitor. And also likely you are going to be deprived of some pennies if you get someone to really tune something in for you.

 

[fundy]

Thanks for your reply. It went into a Callaway X2 Hot. The bottom of the adapter snapped. Well I actually bought the driver for about £50 on Ebay. So didn't want to spend more than that on replacement shaft.

Is the actual shaft snapped or just the adapter? If its just the adapter a decent club fitter will be able to remove it and replace it

 

[Buckbeak]

I believe it's the shaft - as I said I'm not very technical haha. Hopefully you'll be able to see from the image. The rest of it was inside the head, which I've managed to save.

 

[fundy]

yep looks like the shaft sadly

golf clubs for cash appear to have one for sale for £60 but they often have discount vouchers or you could try and knock them down (check it has the right adapter too as Callaway have changed theirs at some point)

 

[IanM]

If you say where you are , hopefully someone local on here can recommend a friendly and not too expensive place to go and get it fixed.... or the facility to try other shafts too

 

[Maninblack4612]

You'll have trouble finding another shaft like the Matrix. It has a very special bend profile, with a very stiff tip, which gives it its low launch / low spin profile.

 

[jim8flog]

I believe it's the shaft - as I said I'm not very technical haha. Hopefully you'll be able to see from the image. The rest of it was inside the head, which I've managed to save.

Without seeing it too clearly that looks to me like the adaptor broke rather than the shaft or the break is so close to the tip that the shaft would still be usable. Just needs the remains of the old adapter removed and new adapter glued in place. Using the 2 pieces you should be able to work out exactly how much of the tip is missing quarter of an inch and you would barely notice the difference.

This is a Callaway adapter and the shaft going in to the adapter would stop at approximately 30 mm from the point where it enters the adapter (not the ferrule)

 

[PJ87]

You'll have trouble finding another shaft like the Matrix. It has a very special bend profile, with a very stiff tip, which gives it its low launch / low spin profile.

Would the pro launch red be similar? That has a low launch low spin

 

[Maninblack4612]

Would the pro launch red be similar? That has a low launch low spin

I've used that before but it launched too high for me. The Oban Devotion works similar to the Matrix if you buy a low launch version. The no. 7 in X flex should work. They come up on EBay now & again. https://www.obanshafts.com/woods/devotion/

 

[fundy]

Would the pro launch red be similar? That has a low launch low spin

in a word no

 

[Buckbeak]

If you say where you are , hopefully someone local on here can recommend a friendly and not too expensive place to go and get it fixed.... or the facility to try other shafts too

I'm in South West London. Would be grateful for any recommendations

 

[Buckbeak]

Without seeing it too clearly that looks to me like the adaptor broke rather than the shaft or the break is so close to the tip that the shaft would still be usable. Just needs the remains of the old adapter removed and new adapter glued in place. Using the 2 pieces you should be able to work out exactly how much of the tip is missing quarter of an inch and you would barely notice the difference.

This is a Callaway adapter and the shaft going in to the adapter would stop at approximately 30 mm from the point where it enters the adapter (not the ferrule)



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I'm not sure of that I'm afraid - thanks for the heads up though. I'll try and get it checked out. Annoyingly after I managed to get the rest of the adapter/shaft put of the head with pliers I threw the rest away!

 

[Blue in Munich]

I'm in South West London. Would be grateful for any recommendations

Phil Wright at Coombe Wood Golf Club is good.

 

[Buckbeak]

I've used that before but it launched too high for me. The Oban Devotion works similar to the Matrix if you buy a low launch version. The no. 7 in X flex should work. They come up on EBay now & again. https://www.obanshafts.com/woods/devotion/

I'll have a look - many thanks for the heads up

 

[duncan mackie]

I'm not sure of that I'm afraid - thanks for the heads up though. I'll try and get it checked out. Annoyingly after I managed to get the rest of the adapter/shaft put of the head with pliers I threw the rest away!

From the picture you posted the shaft isn't affected, the adapter is what has broken, but being carbon composite I would get a professional to remove what's left and attach a new adapter - job done.
Don't need the old bits of adapter - it will only fit one way/length (unless you want the club a different length)

 

[jim8flog]

I'm not sure of that I'm afraid - thanks for the heads up though. I'll try and get it checked out. Annoyingly after I managed to get the rest of the adapter/shaft put of the head with pliers I threw the rest away!

I was only suggesting this as a check for length. Easy enough to measure what you have left.

The adapter in the photograph was a 'removal' due to a part of the adapter being broken and was an easy removal without damaging the shaft.