New national lockdown from this Wed?

A full lockdown for the country will have huge consequences- it’s also not going to make that much more difference to the current tier system.

Localised restrictions appear to be a better way to go

Going into full lockdown is going to cause both financial and mental issues for the country. We just can’t afford it
 
Will.Be interesting to see what he says at 5, I've got my preop on Weds and op scheduled for next Sat, so keen for it not to get cancelled. Been waiting since March and although not essential it would be nice to.draw a line under this.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
A full lockdown for the country will have huge consequences- it’s also not going to make that much more difference to the current tier system.

Localised restrictions appear to be a better way to go

Going into full lockdown is going to cause both financial and mental issues for the country. We just can’t afford it
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Its the implications it'll have for future generations that worries me. Our children will be paying for this for years and years.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Errr...it most certainly ISN‘T just any day for very many people and it can’t be moved thankyou. What many others might choose to do on the 25th December is up to them ... and yes they can do what they wish to do on any day of their choosing - but sorry - we can’t move Christmas Day ??
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With respect to you as a Christian what about Ede that our Muslim population had to miss because of lockdown this year?

Christmas can't be moved as a day but surely the celebrations can be put on hold if Ness.

The big guy would understand
spongebob59 said:
Will.Be interesting to see what he says at 5, I've got my preop on Weds and op scheduled for next Sat, so keen for it not to get cancelled. Been waiting since March and although not essential it would be nice to.draw a line under this.
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I will watch and see what he says

I can see a watered down type where schools are open and like planned ops can carry on but non essential shops closed ..

I got a private procedure this month will be interested to see if goes ahead
 
pauljames87 said:
With respect to you as a Christian what about Ede that our Muslim population had to miss because of lockdown this year?

Christmas can't be moved as a day but surely the celebrations can be put on hold if Ness.

The big guy would understand


I will watch and see what he says

I can see a watered down type where schools are open and like planned ops can carry on but non essential shops closed ..

I got a private procedure this month will be interested to see if goes ahead
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the press have already released the details if you dont want to wait, utterly ridiculous the way info is constantly given to the journo de jour
 
spongebob59 said:
Will.Be interesting to see what he says at 5, I've got my preop on Weds and op scheduled for next Sat, so keen for it not to get cancelled. Been waiting since March and although not essential it would be nice to.draw a line under this.
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Assuming your local hospital is currently coping OK, then you should be fine. This lockdown is about what might happen in a few weeks if nothing is done. Keeping other NHS activity going is a priority.
 
spongebob59 said:
Will.Be interesting to see what he says at 5, I've got my preop on Weds and op scheduled for next Sat, so keen for it not to get cancelled. Been waiting since March and although not essential it would be nice to.draw a line under this.
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Glad I got mine done 3.5 weeks ago from a March cancellation too, hope you get it done
 
Jacko_G said:
Its the implications it'll have for future generations that worries me. Our children will be paying for this for years and years.
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They’ll cope and I’d rather they had debt than no parents or grandparents, the whole debt thing is a red herring anyway, the UK didn’t finish paying our debt to the USA for WW2 until 2006.
 
pauldj42 said:
They’ll cope and I’d rather they had debt than no parents or grandparents, the whole debt thing is a red herring anyway, the UK didn’t finish paying our debt to the USA for WW2 until 2006.
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Something that always bugs me

Who cares if as a country we are in debt

The obsession with breaking even and balancing the book is stupid.

It costs money to run a country and shock horror emergancies happen
 
pauldj42 said:
They’ll cope and I’d rather they had debt than no parents or grandparents, the whole debt thing is a red herring anyway, the UK didn’t finish paying our debt to the USA for WW2 until 2006.
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Debt is a red herring?

Debt is very very real and the pension age is rising alarmingly. Our kids may not get get retire. To dismiss it as not being a real fact and feature of our children's future is foolish. (imo)
 
Jacko_G said:
Debt is a red herring?

Debt is very very real and the pension age is rising alarmingly. Our kids may not get get retire. To dismiss it as not being a real fact and feature of our children's future is foolish. (imo)
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I very much doubt there is a single child in the UK at this very moment sat thinking “I wish they’d let this virus kill thousands more so I can retire when I’m 67 and not 68”

The red herring is people using the kids as an excuse for the worry over future debt, we have debt now and we’ll always have debt.
 
pauldj42 said:
I very much doubt there is a single child in the UK at this very moment sat thinking “I wish they’d let this virus kill thousands more so I can retire when I’m 67 and not 68”

The red herring is people using the kids as an excuse for the worry over future debt, we have debt now and we’ll always have debt.
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Who mentioned let people die?

The fact is the build up of debt and the austerity on the public and economy will be HUGE.

That impacts on the future generations. Fact.
 
Jacko_G said:
Who mentioned let people die?

The fact is the build up of debt and the austerity on the public and economy will be HUGE.

That impacts on the future generations. Fact.
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You’re guessing! None of know the future! What if we have another World War in 30 years? What if a Terrorist group gets hold of a nuclear weapon etc etc, We need to look after the living today and if that means having a lockdown that increases future debt and saves lives now, then I’m all for it!
 
So basically, we as a government don’t want to lose votes up north, so we will put everyone in the same boat and then let them out at different points, because that will at least look like everyone was treated fairly.

The biggest spread is coming from kids, but yeah. Let’s let em keep mixing. Ridiculous.
 
pauldj42 said:
You’re guessing! None of know the future! What if we have another World War in 30 years? What if a Terrorist group gets hold of a nuclear weapon etc etc, We need to look after the living today and if that means having a lockdown that increases future debt and saves lives now, then I’m all for it!
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Yeah - I'm guessing this is costing us nothing.

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