New national lockdown from this Wed?

drive4show said:
Agreed, quite varied. But that was the fault of disinterested parents not teachers.
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Disinterested? Wow what a sweeping statement. What about parents who are already working from home and had to get used to that at the same time

Massive upheavals for everyone

And back to your quoted post it's not just seeing their friends it teaches them social skills and important basic skills that start them in life

If not you have a generation who won't be able to social interact / possibly read.

Yes childcare aswell like Ethan says. If they don't go to school how can people go to work when needed?

My wife, sister, mother, mother in law all are either teachers or in education setting. All see schools being back as very important to the overall country.
 
Missis T took on the role of headmistress during the first lockdown. She did it very well and the kids enjoyed it. But they would of sooner spent time playing on there games all day. There kids who wouldn’t. The school did there online learning through teams and it was excellent.
When the kids returned to school both grandkids teachers said they both were amongst the highest in the class to get all there work done. Some kids hardly did any. I asked young Bradleys teacher Why? She said she had her thoughts but would sooner keep them to herself.
Bottom line, it’s gonna be tough again, some families are gonna have bigger problems than learning ABC. And Xmas is gonna be crap for some. But for me, a national lockdown is both necessary and the correct thing to do.
 
pauljames87 said:
Disinterested? Wow what a sweeping statement. What about parents who are already working from home and had to get used to that at the same time

Massive upheavals for everyone

And back to your quoted post it's not just seeing their friends it teaches them social skills and important basic skills that start them in life

If not you have a generation who won't be able to social interact / possibly read.

Yes childcare aswell like Ethan says. If they don't go to school how can people go to work when needed?

My wife, sister, mother, mother in law all are either teachers or in education setting. All see schools being back as very important to the overall country.
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Yeah my wife is a teacher in a primary school, she also is at risk due to cavatating pneumonia issues. My youngest is 10. They need to go to school, he really struggled and still has even going back. My wife agrees school is so important, while my eldest can manage from home, he will be 14 in a months time, the younger cannot get the lost time and development back and he needs it now.

We cannot say close schools because teachers are at risk withotu looking at every other job and acknowledging the same for them.
 
I don't agree with the we need Xmas, we can have a Xmas day any day. We can move it to another day and celebrate with presents and family and food. It's just a day and trying to specically target it is not the solution.

We need some sort of agressive lockdown with support for those that need it but we also need more personal responsibility from more people not just some or plenty of them and we need a clear concise set of rules we can all follow otherwise this time next year we will still be doing this.
 
Reemul said:
I don't agree with the we need Xmas, we can have a Xmas day any day. We can move it to another day and celebrate with presents and family and food. It's just a day and trying to specically target it is not the solution.

We need some sort of agressive lockdown with support for those that need it but we also need more personal responsibility from more people not just some or plenty of them and we need a clear concise set of rules we can all follow otherwise this time next year we will still be doing this.
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Am not to sure that Boris would try to protect Xmas Itself, but try to protect the economy that Xmas generates. The “ forecasts” re Covid are horrendous.
 
pauljames87 said:
Disinterested? Wow what a sweeping statement. What about parents who are already working from home and had to get used to that at the same time

Massive upheavals for everyone

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Yeah I get that. My girlfriend was constantly chasing up both kids and parents to get them to attend the zoom classes. Some of the responses and excuses were pretty poor TBH, basically they saw it as an extended holiday. The majority were pretty good and worked well.
But the bottom line is schools provide a child minding service so that parents can go to work.

And you didn't answer my question, which is more important children seeing their friends or the health of teachers, many who are older and at higher risk?
 
IanM said:
...all the "experts" were talking about the inevitable "second wave" from day one... cos that what happens... so it it is, why are the same folk now expressing shock?

And this thread will go the way of others and remind us why the political threads wee stopped... :)
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Correct because it's not politics that were the problem.
 
drive4show said:
Yeah I get that. My girlfriend was constantly chasing up both kids and parents to get them to attend the zoom classes. Some of the responses and excuses were pretty poor TBH, basically they saw it as an extended holiday. The majority were pretty good and worked well.
But the bottom line is schools provide a child minding service so that parents can go to work.

And you didn't answer my question, which is more important children seeing their friends or the health of teachers, many who are older and at higher risk?
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Very weighted question as it's not childcare or health at all

But schools open.

If schools close it costs the country more completely .

And you have completely ignored half my post as it doesn't suit your agenda.

As I said. I have a very clear understanding of education from primary to secondary level and it's a very key part of keeping the country moving.
 
The National Lockdown is at the request of the WHS Committee who need another 8 years to sort out the data feeds, explanations of why scoring 2 points on a hole isn't a net par and why "insert course name" is the hardest in the county and only has a slope of ..... etc!

I see similar patterns replicating all over the place... viruses have no knowledge of politics or borders.
 
IanM said:
The National Lockdown is at the request of the WHS Committee who need another 8 years to sort out the data feeds, explanations of why scoring 2 points on a hole isn't a net par and why "insert course name" is the hardest in the county and only has a slope of ..... etc!

I see similar patterns replicating all over the place... viruses have no knowledge of politics or borders.
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Still can't log onto mine, club even confirmed they gave my details over to golf England

Can see my indicated index but can't set up account
 
pauljames87 said:
Still can't log onto mine, club even confirmed they gave my details over to golf England

Can see my indicated index but can't set up account
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Wrong thread! :-) Surely you think doctors were/were not murdering people or that Boris has gone too early/late/soft/hard/only cares about economy/doesn't care about the economy/it's the Russians wot dun it guv!!
 
IanM said:
Wrong thread! :) Surely you think doctors were/were not murdering people or that Boris has gone too early/late/soft/hard/only cares about economy/doesn't care about the economy/it's the Russians wot dun it guv!!
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Let's keep politics out of this and agree golf England are to blame

I think they released covid because they couldn't deal with whs
 
My personal view is that even the current restrictions are doing more harm overall than good in relation to the virus.

The virus is here to stay and (sadly) only seems to be really bad for specific demographics. So the rest of us should be allowed to get on with life whilst maintaining sensible practices and protecting the most vulnerable.

The only reason that lockdowns are being considered is that the Government can't be seen to be doing nothing. The press and certain groups would absolutely hammer them otherwise.

I can't think of anyone I know that wants to go back into lockdown. Most just want to get back on with life and will accept the tiny risk.
 
Zig said:
Not sure it's the press; they're being deliberately briefed by ministers to float the ideas in the first place. It's not coincidence that Gove, Johnson for example have extremely strong links with the Barclays, Murdoch, and paid a lot to write for their publications.

There are some great examples of countries who have managed covid really well, and hence their economies are operating pretty much as normal: Tiawan, Korea, Canada and NZ - the latter probably the best highlighted in the media.

Just gutted that at the start of the year people (our leaders/any colours) couldn't out their political differences to one side and get together to act in the national interest - we're all in it together, for better or worse!
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Lol none of those countries are really comparable.... taking NZ as an obvious example - it does seem easier to control when you have a population half the size of London in a country with more land area than the UK. Not to mention the ability to virtually restrict 100% of travel to the country and still have an economy "operating pretty much as normal", which obviously we cannot...
 
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