New national lockdown from this Wed?

pauldj42 said:
You’re guessing! None of know the future! What if we have another World War in 30 years? What if a Terrorist group gets hold of a nuclear weapon etc etc, We need to look after the living today and if that means having a lockdown that increases future debt and saves lives now, then I’m all for it!
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If we discover a covid cure as Britain prides itself on medical research .. we then market it at a massive profit and wipe out our debt anyways due to world wide demand ?
 
Papas1982 said:
So basically, we as a government don’t want to lose votes up north, so we will put everyone in the same boat and then let them out at different points, because that will at least look like everyone was treated fairly.

The biggest spread is coming from kids, but yeah. Let’s let em keep mixing. Ridiculous.
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What age do you class kids as? As its not the biggest spreader up here.
 
Jacko_G said:
Yeah - I'm guessing this is costing us nothing.

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It’s costing us a fortune and I’d happily go along with it costing more if it means we can save just 1 life, you‘re saying let thousands die to avoid a penny on income tax in 25yrs.:rolleyes:
 
Papas1982 said:
So basically, we as a government don’t want to lose votes up north, so we will put everyone in the same boat and then let them out at different points, because that will at least look like everyone was treated fairly.

The biggest spread is coming from kids, but yeah. Let’s let em keep mixing. Ridiculous.
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Already lost the North

The reaction to this is going to be a lot different to the first lockdown - it’s going to cause of lot anger and pain for people.
 
pauldj42 said:
It’s costing us a fortune and I’d happily go along with it costing more if it means we can save just 1 life, you‘re saying let thousands die to avoid a penny on income tax in 25yrs.:rolleyes:
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But when the numbers appeared under control there was a lot of talk about the lives lost due to prioritising covid. For example through suicide or cancers not diagnosed etc. Unlike the concept of “forget debt now and deal with it later”, sorting the immediate deaths now, doesn’t mean we can necessarily prevent or sort the lost lives.
 
Papas1982 said:
I’m talking schools.
Their the largest groups still congregating in uncontrolled groups.

Whilst closing shops and pubs will make a difference, imo it won’t halt it like the last lockdown where schools were closed too.
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The last lockdown halted it because it was warmer weather.
 
Papas1982 said:
So this lockdown is futile as it’s going to be cold?
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Its to increase the financial burden on future generations, nothing to do with saving lives, protecting the NHS or losing control of the virus.;)

Billy, aged 8, will be livid if it means he can’t collect his state pension until he’s 80.:p
 
Papas1982 said:
So this lockdown is futile as it’s going to be cold?
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No it will still have an affect. All lockdowns kick the can down the road further and further

The right thing to do until a vaccine presents itself

We should have circuit broke at half term 2 weeks. Then Xmas , Feb half term, Easter and may half term

A formulated plan and then the summer less so as warmer weather and by then hopefully vaccine

Delayed too much unfortunately and here we are. A month lockdown by looks .

Tough times ahead
 
Papas1982 said:
But when the numbers appeared under control there was a lot of talk about the lives lost due to prioritising covid. For example through suicide or cancers not diagnosed etc. Unlike the concept of “forget debt now and deal with it later”, sorting the immediate deaths now, doesn’t mean we can necessarily prevent or sort the lost lives.
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But we have to do something, doing nothing because it’ll take longer to sort out is not an option.
 
pauldj42 said:
It’s costing us a fortune and I’d happily go along with it costing more if it means we can save just 1 life, you‘re saying let thousands die to avoid a penny on income tax in 25yrs.:rolleyes:
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Go back and quote me where I've ever said let anyone die??? I challenge you to find that quote. If not get back in your box.
 
pauljames87 said:
No it will still have an affect. All lockdowns kick the can down the road further and further

The right thing to do until a vaccine presents itself

We should have circuit broke at half term 2 weeks. Then Xmas , Feb half term, Easter and may half term

A formulated plan and then the summer less so as warmer weather and by then hopefully vaccine

Delayed too much unfortunately and here we are. A month lockdown by looks .

Tough times ahead
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Or just let it run free and what happens happens.
 
Jacko_G said:
Go back and quote me where I've ever said let anyone die??? I challenge you to find that quote. If not get back in your box.
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You are answers are all about future generations, nothing about helping those in the here and now and if we don’t take more action, more will die, fact, therefore you implyed that worrying about the future debt burden is more important than current lives.
Box well and truly smashed open.:rolleyes:
 
Captainron said:
Or just let it run free and what happens happens.
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No thanks , it may have a Low death rate but if more people have it that low death rate is more people as more people have it.

Also long term covid

A friend at work has it. It's horrible. He's 28 ex army fit as a fiddle .. well he was .. he looks so weak now
 
pauljames87 said:
With respect to you as a Christian what about Ede that our Muslim population had to miss because of lockdown this year?

Christmas can't be moved as a day but surely the celebrations can be put on hold if Ness.

The big guy would understand


I will watch and see what he says

I can see a watered down type where schools are open and like planned ops can carry on but non essential shops closed ..

I got a private procedure this month will be interested to see if goes ahead
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Trust me, Ave an auntie who lives in Oldham, Ede was not missed. It was quoted as a reason that Covid increased in certain northern towns.
 
Blue in Munich said:
When you and I started working, pension age was 65. Now it is up to 67 or 68 because we can't afford 65, and this is going to make 67 or 68 economically unviable is what I think he means.
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That is not alarmingly though or just down to national debt, there were many factors used when the rules to state pension age was changed.
They just don’t meet Jacko’s hissy fit.
 
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