New lockdown will courses close?

[sunshine]

England is in lockdown from Thursday, the rules applying to everyone who lives here. I think we both know it’s not quite as simple as what is being suggested, the same as it wasn’t in the three tier system.

If you lived in Tier 3 last week you couldn’t travel to a lower Tier simply to dodge the rules. You had to follow the rules which were in place where you lived, regardless of where you were.

I am quite sure the same applies here, and I am equally sure he knows it. Why else are the Welsh authorities saying anyone nipping over the border for a pint next week will be turned back?

Sorry but that is rubbish. If you travelled to Sweden, or France or any other country, you follow the rules of that country. You don't go to another country and follow the English rules, just because you're English.

 

[hovis]

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Yes. If you live there. He doesn’t.

So are you saying that whilst he is staying in Scotland for a few days he has to adhere to English rules?

 

[Trapdraw]

If I’m living in a hotel for a week, I live there for that week, so Scotland’s rules apply. If Scotland was in full lockdown and I happen to be Working there Scotland’s rules apply. It’s exactly the same as people going abroad now to avoid lockdown, the country you’re going to rules apply not the one you’ve left behind.

 

[Trapdraw]

Sorry but that is rubbish. If you travelled to Sweden, or France or any other country, you follow the rules of that country. You don't go to another country and follow the English rules, just because you're English.

The bloke is an idiot, ignore him.

I have a friend who travels abroad for work, during our first lockdown he went to Denmark for a weeks work, do you think he locked himself away in his room after work until the next morning because that is what was happening back in the UK? ???

 

[Billysboots]

Sorry but that is rubbish. If you travelled to Sweden, or France or any other country, you follow the rules of that country. You don't go to another country and follow the English rules, just because you're English.

We’re not talking about Sweden or France. We’re talking about the U.K. The guidance on travel is there for all to see on the Government website;

“people cannot travel overseas or within the UK, unless for work, education or other legally permitted reasons.”

Travelling to another part of the U.K. to dodge the rules where you live does not feature. Read this individual’s post - he’s travelling to Scotland for work, intending to stop an extra night so he can play golf.

It’s a breach of guidelines and I suspect he knows it.

 

[Billysboots]

So are you saying that whilst he is staying in Scotland for a few days he has to adhere to English rules?

Read the rules relating to travel. They are really clear.

I’m not going to become further embroiled in a debate with this individual. If he can’t rise above petty name calling it’s quite clear what type of person he is.

 

[hovis]

Read the rules relating to travel. They are really clear.

I’m not going to become further embroiled in a debate with this individual. If he can’t rise above petty name calling it’s quite clear what type of person he is.

I have read the rules. I can't see where it says you must return to England the instant your business is complete and must not go the gym or play golf on the way back over the boarder. By your argument he can't use the gym in the hotel

 

[Trapdraw]

We’re not talking about Sweden or France. We’re talking about the U.K. The guidance of travel is there for all to see on the Government website;

“people cannot travel overseas or within the UK, unless for work, education or other legally permitted reasons.”

Travelling to another part of the U.K. to dodge the rules where you live does not feature. Read this individual’s post - he’s travelling to Scotland for work, intending to stop an extra night so he can play golf.

It’s a breach of guidelines and I suspect he knows it.

I am not travelling to Scotland to play golf, I’m travelling there to work. Under current Scottish rules golf is allowed, golf is not allowed in England from thursday. Since I’ll be in Scotland not England I’ll not be breaching any rules.

 

[Trapdraw]

I’ll post a pic of the course, while you sit in the house with your mask on. ???

 

[sunshine]

This is why I started my round at Augusta on the 13th

Although the security guards at Augusta probably carry guns, and aren't afraid to use them. Whereas at Royal St Georges the worst you might encounter is somebody brandishing a rolled up copy of the Daily Telegraph.

 

[Billysboots]

I have read the rules. I can't see where it says you must return to England the instant your business is complete and must not go the gym or play golf on the way back over the boarder. By your argument he can't use the gym in the hotel

You can stay away from home overnight for work purposes. He is talking about staying an extra night simply to tag on a game of golf. So in answer to your question relating to him playing golf on the way home, the answer would appear to be no.

Let’s not miss the point here. Read his opening couple of posts. The first suggested he was going to cross the border to Scotland to play, the second sought to justify it by suggesting he was going to tag an extra night onto a work trip for that purpose.

The advice is to limit travel, and that overnight stays away from home are for a very limited number of reasons only. I think we both know that this is just someone trying to justify a game of golf elsewhere because he can’t follow guidelines for four weeks like the rest of us.

 

[Billysboots]

I’ll post a pic of the course, while you sit in the house with your mask on. ???

Just as long as I’m not in ICU with a mask on because I’ve caught the lurgy from someone who thought they were above the rules ?

 

[Billysboots]

Just drive up to Scotland for a game.

There it is. Clear as day. However it is you’ve then tried to justify yourself.

 

[Trapdraw]

You can stay away from home overnight for work purposes. He is talking about staying an extra night simply to tag on a game of golf. So in answer to your question relating to him playing golf on the way home, the answer would appear to be no.

Let’s not miss the point here. Read his opening couple of posts. The first suggested he was going to cross the border to Scotland to play, the second sought to justify it by suggesting he was going to tag an extra night onto a work trip for that purpose.

The advice is to limit travel, and that overnight stays away from home are for a very limited number of reasons only. I think we both know that this is just someone trying to justify a game of golf elsewhere because he can’t follow guidelines for four weeks like the rest of us.

If I’m staying in Scotland for a number of weeks, I follow Scotland’s rules. It’s just a bonus that includes open gyms and open golf courses.

It will be the exact opposite for anyone from Scotland having to work in England during lockdown. They are in England so follow English rules.

I don’t know how you can’t understand that?

 

[Trapdraw]

There it is. Clear as day. However it is you’ve then tried to justify yourself.

I’m not trying to justify anything, Its a statement. If I want to drive to Scotland for a game, I will. I only live an hours drive from Scotland and know lots of people who are members of courses around the borders.

 

[Billysboots]

If I’m staying in Scotland for a number of weeks, I follow Scotland’s rules. It’s just a bonus that includes open gyms and open golf courses.

It will be the exact opposite for anyone from Scotland having to work in England during lockdown. They are in England so follow English rules.

I don’t know how you can’t understand that?

So it’s now a number of weeks?

That’s a bit different from “Just drive up to Scotland for a game”! You’ll be justifying yourself next by telling me you’ve sold up in England and plan to take up permanent residency!

Listen, we’ve all had enough of all this. I have. You have. Everyone. And tempers are clearly starting to fray on all sides.

I’m just going to say whatever you decide to do, stay safe and respect those around you. I really have no wish to fall out with someone I don’t even know, all because of a game of golf.

 

[Trapdraw]

Just as long as I’m not in ICU with a mask on because I’ve caught the lurgy from someone who thought they were above the rules ?

I have zero respect for Boris and his rules, I have a friend who has cancer which has not been treated for months due to the first lockdown, which has now spread and is terminal. So fek Boris and his lockdown rules.

When I’m working in Scotland during lockdown you can put money on I’ll be trying to play golf.

 

[Billysboots]

Time to call a truce on this one, I think. We’ll have to agree to disagree. But don’t lose sight of what matters - the need for all of us to make decisions which keep us all safe.

 

[Jamesbrown]

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-travel-and-transport/

You can play golf.

See travel between Scotland and the U.K. and section on exceptions.

Just asks you “please don’t see these as loopholes”.

And guidance for travelling with in U.K. see “travelling from England to other U.K. nations”

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronav...s#travelling-from-england-to-other-uk-nations

I would check ahead if a course will accept you mind. Very good if your out of work and abit of cash aside for a “stay and play”.

 

[Jacko_G]

Love the selfishness, love the drama, might hold off on my ban for another few weeks this is just getting good.

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