mikejohnchapman
Challenge Tour Pro
Yes, sensible compromise.
The 1 or 2 club measure is common sense and much better than the measured alternative.
That rules wasn't broke so no need to fix!
New 2019 rules
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Yes, sensible compromise.
The 1 or 2 club measure is common sense and much better than the measured alternative.
That rules wasn't broke so no need to fix!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I assume that, once dropped, the ball would be allowed to roll a further 2 clubs as is the case now..?
If so, you could end up nearly 5 yards onto the fairway assuming a 45" driver.....
Does that sound right after being 40 yards away in the cabbage?
In theory you could still get a nett par on a shot hole in this scenario, where you'd be lucky to get back to the fairway at all otherwise.
Is this fair, in competition, to a guy who hits the fairway, just missed the green, chips on and 2 putts for the same score..?
If so, you could end up nearly 5 yards onto the fairway assuming a 45" driver.....
Does that sound right after being 40 yards away in the cabbage?
In theory you could still get a nett par on a shot hole in this scenario, where you'd be lucky to get back to the fairway at all otherwise.
Is this fair, in competition, to a guy who hits the fairway, just missed the green, chips on and 2 putts for the same score..?
I believe the 2 club roll will not be in the 2019 rules. The ball will have to stay within the 1-2 club area.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Ok...hadn't seen anything but it makes sense.
Still, the scenario above still stands, especially in the video.
Lump
Tour Winner
for example if you took 3 off the tee and did the same???
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Thanks for this link, much clearer explanation, so dropping on the fairway is basically standard as long as it's in the "general area" of lost/OOB ball.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
And the further from the fairway your ball is, the bigger the "general area"
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Also on the plus side Caddy's will have less to do for some players, no more standing on an extension of the players line from when the player begins to take their stance
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
I am not saying it should be a rule of golf. I have a lot of experience with players who either do not read the local rules in the first place (even when they are on the back of the card) or only know 'half' a rule. So for simplicity's sake I would have it on every hole not just a few holes as you are suggesting
Colin L
Tour Winner
Caution needed! Best not to talk about a ball being in the gneral area of something as general area has been given a specific, defined meaning in the Rules:
General Area
The area of the course that covers all of the course except for the other four defined areas: (1) the teeing area the player must play from in starting the hole he or she is playing, (2) all bunkers, (3) all penalty areas, and (4) the putting green of the hole the player is playing.
The general area includes:
• All teeing locations on the course other than the teeing area, and
• All wrong greens.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Yes and also noticed it is the longest club you have in the bag. So no borrowing another players drivers to measure if you are not carrying one.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
So do I read the new amendments as now no penalty for grounding a club in a hazard?
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- Relaxed rules for “penalty areas†(currently called “water hazardsâ€): Red and yellow-marked penalty areas may cover areas of desert, jungle, lava rock, etc., in addition to areas of water; expanded use of red penalty areas where lateral relief is allowed; and there will be no penalty for moving loose impediments or touching the ground or water in a penalty area. "
That was the way it was explained to me last night after I asked a direct question of "why is it a local rule" from someone who is in the know. You also have the option of including the whole course to keep things simple at your club.
Colin L
Tour Winner
I would really like to see this "option" stated in the rule. Without that, I still read it as applying to the whole course - perhaps not least because I still see no sense in picking and choosing particular holes.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
Absolutely! Three off the tee with a chance that you'll put it in the same damn place or play three from the fairway? Hmmmmmmm, I'll take the fairway thanks very much !!!
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
As the local rule for OOB/Lost ball is just that (a local rule) why does it need to wait until 1st Jan?
Why couldn't it be brought in straight away like other local rules have in the past
Why couldn't it be brought in straight away like other local rules have in the past
4 from the fairway.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Aye but if the OOB/lost ball was pretty short anyway, you may be giving up 100yds+ by taking the drop option.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Because a local rule cannot contradict a rule of golf, so until the new rulebook is released, you couldn't use this as a local rule
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Gotcha
