Nearest point of relief

[hovis]

I was trying to explain to a fellow competitor that nearest point of relief doesn't mean "best point of relief"

The nearest point in this case was a substantial slope with heavy rough. He wanted to drop it on a nicely mown area and said "how am i supposed to hit the ball out of that???

I've found the rule explaining npr but has anyone got any good links to situations such as the above please

 

[Foxholer]

http://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/videos/rules/rules-golf-nearest-point-relief

 

[louise_a]

I was trying to explain to a fellow competitor that nearest point of relief doesn't mean "best point of relief"

The nearest point in this case was a substantial slope with heavy rough. He wanted to drop it on a nicely mown area and said "how am i supposed to hit the ball out of that???

I've found the rule explaining npr but has anyone got any good links to situations such as the above please

Sometimes its better to play it where it lies.

The Foxholer video makes it pretty clear.

 

[hovis]

Sometimes its better to play it where it lies.

The Foxholer video makes it pretty clear.

He did play it off the cart path in the end

I've also been browsing a little but can't find the answer to

What happens if nearest point of relief is oob?

 

[Foxholer]

He did play it off the cart path in the end

I've also been browsing a little but can't find the answer to

What happens if nearest point of relief is oob?

Then it's not 'NPR'! Though it's possible that NPR means that player's stance is OOB (but, in that case, only if the player is actually able to take a stance).

This might help! http://www.barryrhodes.com/2010/04/nearest-point-of-relief.html

 

[Deleted member 15344]

He did play it off the cart path in the end

I've also been browsing a little but can't find the answer to

What happens if nearest point of relief is oob?

Then it's not the nearest point of relief - nearest point of relief must be within the coirse boundaries

 

[Lump]

Then it's not the nearest point of relief - nearest point of relief must be within the course boundaries

And must be full relief to add to that. So if your going to take relief from something, you have to make sure you are "clear" of it. (you can't drop just off the path so your foot is still on the path because there is a better cut of grass)

 

[hovis]

Then it's not 'NPR'! Though it's possible that NPR means that player's stance is OOB (but, in that case, only if the player is actually able to take a stance).

This might help! http://www.barryrhodes.com/2010/04/nearest-point-of-relief.html

Thanks

 

[North Mimms]

Some people think that NPR stands for Nicest Point of Relief!

I've learnt my lesson the hard way, and now always do a proper assessment of what relief is available before picking up my ball. Somethimes it's better to play it as is lies, even if that means playing back towards tee

 

[woody69]

The hardest is when trying to explain the NPR is in a bush or a tree or something.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

We had a problem with this when a series of OOB stakes were had against a path and there was nowhere to sensibly drop NNP in-bounds. After a discussion on drop zones (not good IMO as they get hammered) the committee move th OOB slightly to allowdropping off the path with complete relief,

 

[atticusfinch]

And must be full relief to add to that. So if your going to take relief from something, you have to make sure you are "clear" of it. (you can't drop just off the path so your foot is still on the path because there is a better cut of grass)

Does that mean the nearest point can be actually longer to accommodate full relief or must an additional drop be taken?

 

[Fyldewhite]

Does that mean the nearest point can be actually longer to accommodate full relief or must an additional drop be taken?

Yes, though it isn't really "longer", it just is what it is. The nearest point that affords full relief from the obstruction or whatever.

 

[North Mimms]

Trouble is with taking relief is that some people think they get to chose where the relief is, when logically there is a "nearest point" and then other spots which aren't nearest. Then when you suggest that where they want to drop the ball is incorrect, there is eye rolling.

Example shallow gully of grass crosses fairway just in front of green.
After heavy rain, water has collected so one can claim relief from casual water.
The puddle is only a couple of feet across (tee to green) but stretches about 12 feet across witdth of fairway.

My matchplay opponent wants to drop to the side of puddle (6 feet away) so she has a clear path to green.
I point out that 2 feet behind the puddle is closer relief, but of course that means she will have to chip over the puddle.

So I'm right but seem mean

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Trouble is with taking relief is that some people think they get to chose where the relief is, when logically there is a "nearest point" and then other spots which aren't nearest. Then when you suggest that where they want to drop the ball is incorrect, there is eye rolling.

Example shallow gully of grass crosses fairway just in front of green.
After heavy rain, water has collected so one can claim relief from casual water.
The puddle is only a couple of feet across (tee to green) but stretches about 12 feet across witdth of fairway.

My matchplay opponent wants to drop to the side of puddle (6 feet away) so she has a clear path to green.
I point out that 2 feet behind the puddle is closer relief, but of course that means she will have to chip over the puddle.

So I'm right but seem mean

Probably the most common 'actual' and 'preferred' NPR situation that I come across is when a player is taking relief from a staked tree - especially when that tree is the tee side of a small plantation. Many times I see FCs trying to take relief away from the staked tree to be able to drop the ball in a position that gives them a clear line to the green - when in fact the actual NPR leaves them behind the plantation and no shot to the green. Sometimes you are fortunate that the actual NPR allows that - but I'm pretty adamant about sticking to the NPR.

 

[rulefan]

Probably the most common 'actual' and 'preferred' NPR situation that I come across is when a player is taking relief from a staked tree - especially when that tree is the tee side of a small plantation. Many times I see FCs trying to take relief away from the staked tree to be able to drop the ball in a position that gives them a clear line to the green - when in fact the actual NPR leaves them behind the plantation and no shot to the green. Sometimes you are fortunate that the actual NPR allows that - but I'm pretty adamant about sticking to the NPR.

Nearest point of relief - definition.

The point which is nearest to where you want to be.

 

[North Mimms]

Nearest point of relief - definition.

The point which is nearest to where you want to be.

Confused.
"want" to be?

 

[woody69]

Confused.
"want" to be?

I assume sarcasm!

 

[rulefan]

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

In a group (but not a formally marked plantation) of staked trees I must take my relief from the nearest staked tree interfering with my stance or swing. Correct? In taking full relief from that staked tree can I take my drop in a position where my stance or swing is then interfered with by another staked tree - and so I can take full relief from that tree? And in proceeding in this manner multiple times I could possibly be able to make my way from the centre of a group of staked trees to the edge of it and then out of it?