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Mosque Shooting in NZ

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Liverpoolphil said:
This isn’t going to be a popular opinion but it appears that the outrage to this incident across doesn’t seem to have the same “impact “ as other events across Social Media - if this was 4 Islam terrorists bursting into a Church carrying out the shooting I reckon the “response” would be different

If you use this forum for example

So far 4/5 people commenting on it

Look at the threads for example for the London Bridge Incident or Manchester Bombing - the level of response is different , now is it because it happened in the UK we naturally respond differently ? Did we response differently with the Paris attacks ?

Have we as “Westerners” become sub consciously less caring if “Muslims” get attacked because of 9/11 , 7/7, Lee Rigby , ISIS etc -it was a question that was asked on Twitter
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I think that’s spot on Tbf. Too many people along the lines of “I’m not saying all Muslims are terrorists, but........”

So as a group of people (not race) they do seem to get less sympathy. It’s wrong, but unfortunately when a war (terrorism) is waged there will be casualties on both sides and those who inflicted the first pain (in people’s eyes) will get less support.

Atm the bad guys are deemed to be Muslims, so they’re the ones getting less sympathy.

The Australian response seems harsh, but they’ve always been blunt on followers beliefs and stated a few times that whilst they accept Muslims, only those that work within the community. Having had attacks there themselves, they’re a lot less inclined to feel sorry for them. A feeling I expect a lot of people feel in the uk, but aren’t as comfortable saying due to the likelyhood of being labels racist.
 
People have said this could be called retaliation however no “retaliation” should cost innocent people’s lifes

The attack is disgusting and cowRdly

Muslims may be seen as the enermy but it’s only some nutters who happen to be Muslim.. Muslims are just like everyone else. Just going about their day. Worshiping their god in their way.

Awful behaviour
 
Papas1982 said:
I think that’s spot on Tbf. Too many people along the lines of “I’m not saying all Muslims are terrorists, but........”

So as a group of people (not race) they do seem to get less sympathy. It’s wrong, but unfortunately when a war (terrorism) is waged there will be casualties on both sides and those who inflicted the first pain (in people’s eyes) will get less support.

Atm the bad guys are deemed to be Muslims, so they’re the ones getting less sympathy.

The Australian response seems harsh, but they’ve always been blunt on followers beliefs and stated a few times that whilst they accept Muslims, only those that work within the community. Having had attacks there themselves, they’re a lot less inclined to feel sorry for them. A feeling I expect a lot of people feel in the uk, but aren’t as comfortable saying due to the likelyhood of being labels racist.
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Should we really be judging how people feel based on posts/likes/tweets etc on social media

People are disgusted based on the loss of life taken by terrorism and imo it’s irrelevant how social media views it.
 
pauldj42 said:
Should we really be judging how people feel based on posts/likes/tweets etc on social media

People are disgusted based on the loss of life taken by terrorism and imo it’s irrelevant how social media views it.
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It was the talk of work when I walked in at 6

Have to admit I felt awful for the people involved but relieved it wasn’t the uk again.

Terrorism is awful regardless but when it’s in your own country it really makes you uneasy
 
pauldj42 said:
Should we really be judging how people feel based on posts/likes/tweets etc on social media

People are disgusted based on the loss of life taken by terrorism and imo it’s irrelevant how social media views it.
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In this day and age, social media can absolutely be used as a means to get an idea for the opinion/mood from a situation. It shouldn’t be the sole measure of course, but it’s certainly gives an impression.
The fact we are discussing it on social media is testament to its validity.

Of course lots of people are disgusted by the situation, but I have no doubt that when an act of terrorism is carried out by those claiming to be Muslim the outrage is faster and louder. Has a Muslim ever initially been declared as a person with a mental illness? I mean all terrorists are deluded, but white ones seem to be given that label a lot quicker.
 
Cherry13 said:
Not sure if you’ve watched the video, but from reading this I assume you have. In my opinion watching the video is morally wrong, and I will certainly be doing my best to avoid seeing any clips at all costs.
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Exactly the reason why I have been sent it 3 times today and deleted it the 3 times today.
 
Seems strange that comments re social media and response are mentioned when the whole shocking events were first broadcast to the whole world on social media.
 
Papas1982 said:
In this day and age, social media can absolutely be used as a means to get an idea for the opinion/mood from a situation. It shouldn’t be the sole measure of course, but it’s certainly gives an impression.
The fact we are discussing it on social media is testament to its validity.

Of course lots of people are disgusted by the situation, but I have no doubt that when an act of terrorism is carried out by those claiming to be Muslim the outrage is faster and louder. Has a Muslim ever initially been declared as a person with a mental illness? I mean all terrorists are deluded, but white ones seem to be given that label a lot quicker.
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Tashyboy said:
Seems strange that comments re social media and response are mentioned when the whole shocking events were first broadcast to the whole world on social media.
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I’ve no doubt social media is here to stay and now plays a big part in life, but it’s not a chart show, judging whether something is less popular(awful phrase to use for a terrorist outrage) or less affected based on numbers concerns me.
There has and was a backlash to people sharing and caring just to be seen rather than being genuine.
 
pauldj42 said:
I’ve no doubt social media is here to stay and now plays a big part in life, but it’s not a chart show, judging whether something is less popular(awful phrase to use for a terrorist outrage) or less affected based on numbers concerns me.
There has and was a backlash to people sharing and caring just to be seen rather than being genuine.
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When Australia had a terror attack by isis last year was it the attention was the same as today
 
pauldj42 said:
I’ve no doubt social media is here to stay and now plays a big part in life, but it’s not a chart show, judging whether something is less popular(awful phrase to use for a terrorist outrage) or less affected based on numbers concerns me.
There has and was a backlash to people sharing and caring just to be seen rather than being genuine.
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I agree in regards to the posts of those wanting to look sympathetic just for hundreds of likes, but whether 10% were disingenuous or 20% there has still been a significantly lower response to this.

Now that could be beciase people have suddenly become sincere and aren’t just after likes, but personally I believe the lesser response is down to who has been targeted.

That’s not me deciding how tragic something is based on social media, but it is me judge the public opinion and care shown towards certain communities.
 
Another truly horrendous loss of life of innocent people. Sadly, todays attack, along with the numbers we've seen in the US and elsewhere shows that even in modern secure societies these can happen. How do we stop it happening again. Can we ever stop it? One thing is certain, that Senator should be made to leave office with immediate effect. That was wrong on so many levels
 
Papas1982 said:
I agree in regards to the posts of those wanting to look sympathetic just for hundreds of likes, but whether 10% were disingenuous or 20% there has still been a significantly lower response to this.

Now that could be beciase people have suddenly become sincere and aren’t just after likes, but personally I believe the lesser response is down to who has been targeted.

That’s not me deciding how tragic something is based on social media, but it is me judge the public opinion and care shown towards certain communities.
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I’m not judging you or your response in any way.(y)
 
This atrocity will be denounced as barbaric and inhumane by anyone with a modicum of humanity.
However I have to object to these posts on here that are venting personal prejudices by suggesting people who dont jump onto social media to state their disgust are somehow implicit in supporting the murder of Muslims. Everyone doesn't have their heart on their sleeves and you would expect more people to comment when the atrosity happens in their own countries.
 
SocketRocket said:
This atrocity will be denounced as barbaric and inhumane by anyone with a modicum of humanity.
However I have to object to these posts on here that are venting personal prejudices by suggesting people who dont jump onto social media to state their disgust are somehow implicit in supporting the murder of Muslims. Everyone doesn't have their heart on their sleeves and you would expect more people to comment when the atrosity happens in their own countries.
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I think showing less sympathy doesn’t necessarily suggest they are supporting murder.

But when the shooting in America Vegas happened at the concert the was a response, as in France when Muslims created carnage.

The idea that sympathy is only shown to people in this shores is a red herring of a defence.
 
Papas1982 said:
I think showing less sympathy doesn’t necessarily suggest they are supporting murder.

But when the shooting in America Vegas happened at the concert the was a response, as in France when Muslims created carnage.

The idea that sympathy is only shown to people in this shores is a red herring of a defence.
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France is a damn sight closer than new Zealand and that will have a factor on people’s views because of the EU and the freedom of movement ..
 
Papas1982 said:
I think showing less sympathy doesn’t necessarily suggest they are supporting murder.

But when the shooting in America Vegas happened at the concert the was a response, as in France when Muslims created carnage.

The idea that sympathy is only shown to people in this shores is a red herring of a defence.
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Try reading my post again. I never suggested sympathy is ONLY shown to people on these shores, did I? I said you would expect MORE people to comment when the atrocity happened in their own countries. Please stop the blame game, its unnecessary.
 
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