McIlroy and his caddie

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freddielong said:
Oh well we haven't all "worked on tour" like you why don't you explain.
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I come on to the forum every now and then but I don't have the desire to A write long posts and B share information about others.

Go along to Troon this year and follow Mcilroy and JP, come back and let me know your thoughts.
 
Scratch lefty said:
I come on to the forum every now and then but I don't have the desire to A write long posts and B share information about others.

Go along to Troon this year and follow Mcilroy and JP, come back and let me know your thoughts.
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Sorry but you already have my thoughts, maybe you are just out of touch now you are no longer "on tour".
 
I would expect with him being a caddie and having worked on the tour previously his insight prob holds a bit more weight as opposed to people seeing a few things on telly - also seems to back up what Rory has said about JP in past - but then he is only one of the best golfers in the world - what would he know about what he needs from a caddie
 
Scratch lefty said:
I come on to the forum every now and then but I don't have the desire to A write long posts and B share information about others.

Go along to Troon this year and follow Mcilroy and JP, come back and let me know your thoughts.
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Already have my thoughts. They include if you aren't able to allude on your experience then how are we expected to learn from what you've seen? Why does that A) have to be long and B) name names specifically
 
Nobody is asking for names - an insight would be interesting.

Not quite sure why you even bothered to post at all.
 
drdel said:
Nobody is asking for names - an insight would be interesting.

Not quite sure why you even bothered to post at all.
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Paul McGinley gave an insight into JP and his relationship with Rory and how good a caddy he is on Thursday night - also mentioned it again on Friday night
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I would expect with him being a caddie and having worked on the tour previously his insight prob holds a bit more weight as opposed to people seeing a few things on telly - also seems to back up what Rory has said about JP in past - but then he is only one of the best golfers in the world - what would he know about what he needs from a caddie
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Yes ok that's right, he said it was so so it's so, wouldn't back it up with anything but hey let's just accept it.

Rory made mistake after mistake if he had a different guy on the bag he may not have done that.
 
freddielong said:
Yes ok that's right, he said it was so so it's so, wouldn't back it up with anything but hey let's just accept it.

Rory made mistake after mistake if he had a different guy on the bag he may not have done that.
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What do they say, a change is as good as a rest. I wonder what would happen if McIlroy got a stronger man that would be more in his ear. Might do him some good and I wonder if we'd see the silly errors like the 11th at Augusta as often. Mentally, I don't think McIlroy is as strong/good as a lot of those around him in the game
 
freddielong said:
Yes ok that's right, he said it was so so it's so, wouldn't back it up with anything but hey let's just accept it.

Rory made mistake after mistake if he had a different guy on the bag he may not have done that.
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And he may have made the same mistakes maybe even more. Plenty of players make mistakes - it happens when the player is off form a bit - doesn't mean it's finger pointing time at the caddy. For all anyone knows JP could have been speaking to him the whole way round but as been alluded to on here and in the media by well respected golfers - Rory is a strong minded person and knows what he wants to do - a strong minded caddy could have been a disaster to work with.

Rory knows his own game , his coach knows his game and importantly JP knows his game. There is no doubt they will be back playing well again soon enough winning comps - the man has carried his bag to four majors and multiple other comps and Rory has stated how much of a help JP has been. Maybe Rory knows what's best for himself - seems to have done pretty well so far I would suggest
 
freddielong said:
Paul McGinley thinks everyone is great.
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So it wouldn't matter if Darren Clarke or Billy Foster ( who thinks he is one of the best caddies in the game also ) or indeed any on else who actually knows what's going on and how the relationship works between the two - it would all be immediately dismissed
 
freddielong said:
He has done ok, it would be easy to argue he hasn't done as well as he should or indeed could have.
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Done ok ?

He is 26 - won 4 majors ( one step away from the career slam ) , won 2 WGC , PGA plus 13 other pro tournaments so far in a short career suggests he has done a bit more than "ok"

He has been the most successful golfer in the last 6 years and not even been a poor for ten years - all this at a time when IMO golf is full of massively talented players.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Done ok ?

He is 26 - won 4 majors ( one step away from the career slam ) , won 2 WGC , PGA plus 13 other pro tournaments so far in a short career suggests he has done a bit more than "ok"

He has been the most successful golfer in the last 6 years and not even been a poor for ten years - all this at a time when IMO golf is full of massively talented players.
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And maybe, just maybe he could have added to the majors, especially around Augusta. Sorry but there's no definitive answer and it's something we'll probably never know for definite but I (and others) simply feel that sometimes McIlroy has been too cavalier in his approach and tried too hard when a different caddy may have calmed him and shown that at times a bogey isn't the end of the world.
 
freddielong said:
Paul McGinley thinks everyone is great.
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You come across as argumentative and negative, you definetley wouldn't be suited to being a caddy.

It is clear yourself and others have little concept on the relationship they have. Your passing comments by being an arm chair critic without the evidence to support it.

I am not gong to waste my time on this subject anymore, do as I say and follow them in a big stage event and see how your feelings are then.

Until then, you have NO IDEA how things work.
 
Scratch lefty said:
You come across as argumentative and negative, you definetley wouldn't be suited to being a caddy.

It is clear yourself and others have little concept on the relationship they have. Your passing comments by being an arm chair critic without the evidence to support it.

I am not gong to waste my time on this subject anymore, do as I say and follow them in a big stage event and see how your feelings are then.

Until then, you have NO IDEA how things work.
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Sorry but you've brought nothing further to suggest you have anything more insightful from your "experience". Give some evidence. Not too hard to do surely?
 
Scratch lefty said:
You come across as argumentative and negative, you definetley wouldn't be suited to being a caddy.

It is clear yourself and others have little concept on the relationship they have. Your passing comments by being an arm chair critic without the evidence to support it.

I am not gong to waste my time on this subject anymore, do as I say and follow them in a big stage event and see how your feelings are then.

Until then, you have NO IDEA how things work.
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its not every day we golfing amateurs get to have a chance of picking somebodys brains who has been in the big time ,and when we do it would be nice if we had a little insight from them ,in this case it is your good self ,so rather than getting a little narked with a couple of members ,would you do the rest of us a favour and present a small snippet of life on tour .
thanks.
 
Scratch lefty said:
You come across as argumentative and negative, you definetley wouldn't be suited to being a caddy.

It is clear yourself and others have little concept on the relationship they have. Your passing comments by being an arm chair critic without the evidence to support it.

I am not gong to waste my time on this subject anymore, do as I say and follow them in a big stage event and see how your feelings are then.

Until then, you have NO IDEA how things work.
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Shame that you can't give a bit of insight as think there would be a lot more poster on here that would be very interested in hearing some snippets etc - hopefully you will reconsider and ignore the doubters :thup:
 
Why is it that when somebody comes on here with great insight and first hand experience, he gets a hard time?

It might be nice if he was shown a bit of respect and less snidey remarks.
 
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