McIlroy and his caddie

[Slab]

pipedit's post was a good read with more than a couple of things that make you think (especially the short game stat)

Don't know Rory one iota so not sure if he is a team player that can commit to a game plan formed by the whole team including his caddie or whether 'he's the man' and will do what he thinks best

In hindsight the 'take it on' aggressive attitude to shot selection definitely hurt him but to be fair he was chasing the leader and how many years out of 10 would Danny have taken the win, probably just one. Spieth isn't going to do that too often so the game plan for Danny came good but it still relied on a slump in some form from Spieth in order to work (& it make great viewing)

Sunday morning over breakfast and maybe the better game plan was to 'go for it' but maybe Rory just went OTT and took it too literally

 

[Tiger]

The game plan for Danny was take one hole at a time and try and compile the best score on the day. He did start very well but was controlled and patient throughout his round. Rory was trying to birdie every hole!!!

 

[freddielong]

The game plan for Danny was take one hole at a time and try and compile the best score on the day. He did start very well but was controlled and patient throughout his round. Rory was trying to birdie every hole!!!

That is the only way you can play good golf one shot at a time.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I think FD made an excellent point in an earlier post, over the weekend Rory was playing matchplay golf not 72 hole strokeplay golf.

 

[mikeb4]

I think the caddie provides more support than most would appreciate. Danny Willet seemed to have a great relationship with his caddy yesterday that seemed to help ease the tension in the round. Spieth's caddy was involved, but maybe needed to take a stronger role to refocus Spieth after his tee shot on the 12th.
I wouldn't be surprised if Spieth changes caddy in the following months.

no way spieth will be changing his caddie................

 

[Deleted member 1418]

I'd quite happily be Rory's caddie - looks like a good gig to me. If all he wants me to do is carry his clubs, give them a little clean, and give him yardages then that's fine with me! Considerably better than my current day job!!

 

[fundy]

I'd quite happily be Rory's caddie - looks like a good gig to me. If all he wants me to do is carry his clubs, give them a little clean, and give him yardages then that's fine with me! Considerably better than my current day job!!

think you'll find thats the job description for Duston Johnsons caddy!!!!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

In that case Pieman can do Rory and I'll do Dustins bag. Both trouser huge sums in the US. Pieman, I'll get the first round in :thup:

 

[Deleted member 1418]

In that case Pieman can do Rory and I'll do Dustins bag. Both trouser huge sums in the US. Pieman, I'll get the first round in :thup:

Sounds good to me LT! Although I think I'll be down in the bar before you as you'll be helping Dustin with his Kindergarten homework!!! Don't think there's much going on between the ears with that fella!!!

 

[FairwayDodger]

I'd quite happily be Rory's caddie - looks like a good gig to me. If all he wants me to do is carry his clubs, give them a little clean, and give him yardages then that's fine with me! Considerably better than my current day job!!

Plus golf pundits and hackers on every golf website harping on about how useless you are and how much you're holding their hero back. But don't worry he'll soon get a new girlfriend and then she'll cop the blame...

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Plus golf pundits and hackers on every golf website harping on about how useless you are and how much you're holding their hero back. But don't worry he'll soon get a new girlfriend and then she'll cop the blame...

:thup: whilst I'll quite happily be pocketing a couple of million a year for being useless!!!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'll be happy to do his homework for him to get him through his exams. We have had a succession of royals where that has worked, why not for Dustin as well. All he has to do is whack that little white ball, I'll work out 7 x 8 for him.

Pieman and I will have a whale of a time. I don't do twitter or Facebook so all the haters can moan away. We'll be living in our Florida mansions drinking cold beer and living it up.

 

[freddielong]

I don't think anyone is saying that with a better Caddie Rory would have won it's more that his current Caddie doesn't appear to add anything to Rorys game and a better caddie might.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I don't think anyone is saying that with a better Caddie Rory would have won it's more that his current Caddie doesn't appear to add anything to Rorys game and a better caddie might.

Key words "appear" and "might"

Remember the interview Rory did after winning the US Open and the impact JP had to help him recover from the Masters that year

Also how he helped him keep calm both in his second PGA and the Open.

I fully expect JP does exactly what Rory wants - to be there when needed and to offer the advice he needs and wants.

 

[freddielong]

It's a discussion on a forum I am sure "appear"and "might" are key words in most of them.

Maybe Rory is getting what he wants from JP but not what he needs.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It's a discussion on a forum I am sure "appear"and "might" are key words in most of them.

Maybe Rory is getting what he wants from JP but not what he needs.

And who do you think is best placed to decide what he needs - Rory

 

[freddielong]

And who do you think is best placed to decide what he needs - Rory

Not usually, if he is getting what he wants he may not realise he actually needs more or something different.

 

[drdel]

Not usually, if he is getting what he wants he may not realise he actually needs more or something different.

I agree. The problem is the RM is the source of income for a considerable number of hangers-on who will be concerned that the gravy train's wheels may come off for them if they argue - as we saw with the management company fiasco.

RM has a bit of a reputation for 'knowing his own mind' which can often get in the way of being given the correct advice - only the 'Yes men' will survive..

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I agree. The problem is the RM is the source of income for a considerable number of hangers-on who will be concerned that the gravy train's wheels may come off for them if they argue - as we saw with the management company fiasco.

RM has a bit of a reputation for 'knowing his own mind' which can often get in the way of being given the correct advice - only the 'Yes men' will survive..

I don't think it's right to start suggesting JP is there purely because of any gravy train. Not one of us will ever fully understand the relationship between him and JP

Did people question Phil being with Bones when he had a few struggles ?

Just because you can't hear what is talked between the two doesn't mean conversations don't happen

The crucial part for McIlroy is that he the player is comfortable with the caddy he is with and who knows his game inside and out and is the character Rory wants - JP has been with him from the start - was with him during the youthful rise then during the meltdown at Augusta - then by his side to help him recover to win the US Open then the US PGA - was with him when he went through his slump after moving to Nike and then with him again as he won majors.

Rory knows exactly who should be his caddy and right now it's JP

 

[drdel]

I don't think it's right to start suggesting JP is there purely because of any gravy train. Not one of us will ever fully understand the relationship between him and JP

Did people question Phil being with Bones when he had a few struggles ?

Just because you can't hear what is talked between the two doesn't mean conversations don't happen

The crucial part for McIlroy is that he the player is comfortable with the caddy he is with and who knows his game inside and out and is the character Rory wants - JP has been with him from the start - was with him during the youthful rise then during the meltdown at Augusta - then by his side to help him recover to win the US Open then the US PGA - was with him when he went through his slump after moving to Nike and then with him again as he won majors.

Rory knows exactly who should be his caddy and right now it's JP

JP was not cited/ mentioned. My post mentioned a potential issue that is common with many famous and rich people.