Manchester Terrorist Attack!

Can I just add a massive thanks to all our services and armed forces patrolling the streets in boiling temperatures today in an effort to ensure our lives are safe today.
 
From the BBC



More than 100 Iraqi civilians were killed by US air strike and blast in Mosul in March, US military confirms

Can I just add this is in no way condining the actions of the cowards that arrived out these attacks. But this is why there are many extremists that want revenge against the western world. War is a terrible thing, and peace will never occur when people feel that there is a need for revenge.
 
IanM said:
No. They just want to kill you unless you submit to their version of Islam .

Who says so? They do. Often.
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Are you really going to discount the need for revenge and to cause havoc to maybe try and get the UK to move away from the action in Libya , Syria and Iraq ?

If was just about killing us because of Islam why did they only start after the UK involvement in Iraq , Afghan , Libya and Syria - these groups formed because of the military action in those countries and the west attempting to force democracy on the countries
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Are you really going to discount the need for revenge and to cause havoc to maybe try and get the UK to move away from the action in Libya , Syria and Iraq ?

If was just about killing us because of Islam why did they only start after the UK involvement in Iraq , Afghan , Libya and Syria - these groups formed because of the military action in those countries and the west attempting to force democracy on the countries
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Im a bit confused by this, are you saying that this is all the west's fault.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Are you really going to discount the need for revenge and to cause havoc to maybe try and get the UK to move away from the action in Libya , Syria and Iraq ?

If was just about killing us because of Islam why did they only start after the UK involvement in Iraq , Afghan , Libya and Syria - these groups formed because of the military action in those countries and the west attempting to force democracy on the countries
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Read up on Isis. If that was the case why do they kill "the other sort of Muslims, chuck gay folk off buildings, kidnap school kids etc etc

Stop trying to rationalise the actions of madmen.
 
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The first thing I'd do is try and replace the 20,000 Police Officers we've lost since 2010.
 
bobmac said:
So you wake up in the morning and your the new PM.
What would you change?
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Give the security forces what they need - pour funding into our police forces and armed forces so that they have far better resources to help them tackle the issues
 
Val said:
Can I just add a massive thanks to all our services and armed forces patrolling the streets in boiling temperatures today in an effort to ensure our lives are safe today.
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Whilst I agree the forces do a good job putting police on the street for one day armed is just a total waste of time.

What about tomorrow and the days after.

We are in a war on the streets and putting police on the street for a day is just a token gesture.

What actually would 2 police do against a bomb? absolutely nothing.

As I understand it although not seen there were 2 in Taunton today do they not know Taunton is a big place.
 
How about cancelling the passports of all those who went to fight in Syria?
How about Deporting the hate preachers and their multitude of kids and wives living on welfare?

Who says so? My mate Razi, who is sick of these scum bringing shame on his religion and who is angry that our politicians are too scared to do anything other than talk about cohesion .

Tolerate the intolerant and you end up dead. Simples.
 
IanM said:
How about cancelling the passports of all those who went to fight in Syria?
How about Deporting the hate preachers and their multitude of kids and wives living on welfare?

Who says so? My mate Razi, who is sick of these scum bringing shame on his religion and who is angry that our politicians are too scared to do anything other than talk about cohesion .

Tolerate the intolerant and you end up dead. Simples.
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Anybody proven to have visited Syria for subversive reasons do have their passports removed from them.
 
pauldj42 said:
Anybody proven to have visited Syria for subversive reasons do have their passports removed from them.
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Many have returned and the Home Office haven't a clue where they are. And it's not just Syria is it?

This lot want to kill you and your kids.... It's that simple. But folk on here are finding excuses for them. Frankly that's amazing. Moderate law abiding muslims are just as much at risk. But still the same nonsense.

Carry on as normal they say. How can you when your kid is dead or you're a 14 year old suddenly minus your legs.

Smell the coffee folks.
 
IanM said:
Many have returned and the Home Office haven't a clue where they are. And it's not just Syria is it?

This lot want to kill you and your kids.... It's that simple. But folk on here are finding excuses for them. Frankly that's amazing. Moderate law abiding muslims are just as much at risk. But still the same nonsense.

Carry on as normal they say. How can you when your kid is dead or you're a 14 year old suddenly minus your legs.

Smell the coffee folks.
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Really, I'd be amazed if you can show anyone making excuses for them.

What do you suggest?
 
pokerjoke said:
Whilst I agree the forces do a good job putting police on the street for one day armed is just a total waste of time.

What about tomorrow and the days after.

We are in a war on the streets and putting police on the street for a day is just a token gesture.

What actually would 2 police do against a bomb? absolutely nothing.

As I understand it although not seen there were 2 in Taunton today do they not know Taunton is a big place.
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Of course what you say is all true. Doesn't stop anyone saying thanks today though
 
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