Lowering you handicap.

Tashyboy said:
And that is probably what I wanted to hear as well seeing as I'm hoping to retire later this year.
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Look at what everyone else is saying....and forget it. Go out. Enjoy yourself. You'll get better, you'll have fun. Just play golf with a smile on your face. A handicap is just a number.
 
Lump said:
Utter nonsense.
I've only had 3 lessons….ever, and all we went through was grip.
I've hit thousands and thousands of balls. After so long you begin to understand what you need to do in a swing to get results.
A repeatable bad swing is far better than an unrepeatable good swing.
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I've seen your swing James and it is a thing of beauty. No reason why you can't make 3 this year... and for bad, but repeatable swings - Jim Furyk!
 
Lump said:
Utter nonsense.
I've only had 3 lessons….ever, and all we went through was grip.
I've hit thousands and thousands of balls. After so long you begin to understand what you need to do in a swing to get results.
A repeatable bad swing is far better than an unrepeatable good swing.
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Maybe with a few more lessons you would have got to scratch.

Guess that's where the tour pros are going wrong, having too many lessons :whistle:
 
Short game. Chipping and putting. Without question.
Anybody with a "reasonable" swing can put it down a fairway or near a green.
The difference between a "reasonable" golfer and a "good" one is that the good one will get up and down, (or two putt), a lot more often than the reasonable one.
The main difference between a 16 handicapper and a 10 handicapper is usually about 6 putts/chips per round
;)
 
Maybe people are getting it wrong with their approach to lessons and practice. If so much of the game is about short game and scoring, why does it seem that most people spent the majority of their time getting full swing lessons. This is also where most people do most of their practice. Hours and hours pounding balls at the range.

5 full swing to one short game lessons. maybe it should be the other way around.
 
garyinderry said:
Maybe people are getting it wrong with their approach to lessons and practice. If so much of the game is about short game and scoring, why does it seem that most people spent the majority of their time getting full swing lessons. This is also where most people do most of their practice. Hours and hours pounding balls at the range.

5 full swing to one short game lessons. maybe it should be the other way around.
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I think it could be because the majority of us find it a bit boring practicing pitching/chipping & putting,but smashing Driver/long iron down the range is more satisfying.
 
In terms of getting down to a consistent 18 I don't think you really have to be doing anything too fancy or technical. Keep it play (i.e avoid the hero shots and trying to out hit Bubba off the tee), sharpen up the short game a bit and the right course management and you should have no problem.
 
MashieNiblick said:
In terms of getting down to a consistent 18 I don't think you really have to be doing anything too fancy or technical. Keep it play (i.e avoid the hero shots and trying to out hit Bubba off the tee), sharpen up the short game a bit and the right course management and you should have no problem.
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thats sounds like really good advice, my problem is when I use course management and let's say opt for nice 8 iron instead of the 4 iron, I end up duffing it up and it frustrates me no end coz I'm trying to play sensible.
 
Darren24 said:
thats sounds like really good advice, my problem is when I use course management and let's say opt for nice 8 iron instead of the 4 iron, I end up duffing it up and it frustrates me no end coz I'm trying to play sensible.
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As OS says that's golf

I have a problem with our 18th par 5 - green just out of reach and well defended. Wherever I lay up to I duff the approach into one of the front bunkers, or thin it over the green.

So this season I'm thinking perhaps for me in that situation it would be smarter to smash a fairway straight into the bunkers in front of the green so then I'm playing out for 3 instead of 4. :)
 
Practice at home.

The two things that helped me outside lessons were doing exercises, grip and stance practice at home in front of a mirror and putting to a 5p across the carpet at home.

Both ensured my basic fundamentals and foundations were solid. From a good base a good swing grows.

I think splitting 1/4 of time on stance, grip and alignment, 1/2 on short game (inc pitching and half shots) and the final 1/4 on full shots from short irons to driver (only when the basic fundamentals are solid).

You do not have to be swinging a club to be practising golf!
 
Short game practice, 100 yards and in. As much practice as you can. A couple of hours a week practicing wedge and putter should see your numbers come down.

maybe not as much fun as trying to launch your driver 300yds down the range, but your question wasn't about how you could have more fun at the range.

N.B. just re-reading Bob rotella Golf is not a game of perfect
 
Tashyboy said:
I know the question has been asked a million times. But in a nutshell....how can I get it down to below 20 regular and hopefully 18 by the end of next season.
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My best advice? Lessons. Maybe a dozen over the course of 6-8 months. £250 on a new driver or the same on lessons. Which would you think would improve EVERY part of your game?
 
MashieNiblick said:
As OS says that's golf

I have a problem with our 18th par 5 - green just out of reach and well defended. Wherever I lay up to I duff the approach into one of the front bunkers, or thin it over the green.

So this season I'm thinking perhaps for me in that situation it would be smarter to smash a fairway straight into the bunkers in front of the green so then I'm playing out for 3 instead of 4. :)
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You could also go one better, driver, 8/9i second and leave yourself a full shot in ;)

I think everyone needs that happy distànce, on all of our par5's I lay up to 100/110 then full wedge in, plenty of spin, plenty of stop, at worst I twoputt I walk off with a safe par!
 
If you watched Seve or Olazabal in their heyday, they failed to make quite a high percentage of GIR, but almost always got down in 2 from anywhere near the green. It makes such a difference to your scores, and is generally the difference between good amateurs and the top tour pros.
 
Oddsocks said:
You could also go one better, driver, 8/9i second and leave yourself a full shot in ;)

I think everyone needs that happy distànce, on all of our par5's I lay up to 100/110 then full wedge in, plenty of spin, plenty of stop, at worst I twoputt I walk off with a safe par!
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Yep, that is a good alternative. I think I'd need to leave something like a 7 iron in as I think that is the club where even if I hit thin it won't fly over the back. Then I can swing a bit more freely. The green is slightly elevated and right in front of the practice green so I always get edgy about thinning it hence mostly hit it fat (and I'm talking 6 inches in front of the ball!) with the occasional thin when I try not to hit fat!

I know it's really a mental thing so anything different is worth a go. :)
 
I managed to get from 23 to 18 in my first 'proper' season of comps!

Without ever having a lesson (apart from YouTube and golf forum lessons)

It's about knowing you're own strengths and weaknesses!

That par 5 maybe best for someone to hit iron iron iron! I don't carry irons above 7 so for me it's drive, hybrid full wedge/9iron!

Keep the penalties off the card , our 3rd is a short par 4 with a pond at drivable length!

I don't risk it and hit hybrid then the same club again! 170+170 means I am either on or green side! Never in the pond!

Good luck! I'm trying to assess what my goal is for the coming season??.?
 
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