Lost Yards...

[moogie]

you've well and truly put me in my place. Well played Sir.

Ouch........ u got me
I hardly think the original post was intended as a boast
So I just dont understand the reaction
Ive a pal used to carry a 3 & 5 wood, decided with only 10yards between them, why bother.....??
Ended up ditching them Both......and now plays a 4 wood, 10yards Longer than original 3 wood
I bet their are plenty people on this forum that carry 3-PW or 4-PW and cant hit their 3, 4, or 5 irons any further than their 6 iron
Some clubs JUST WORK
But 225yds with a fairway, Certainly WAS NOT boasting

 

[Deleted member 1147]

As someone else said your shaft is probably the issue.

I was told at a custom fitting that the driver should have the stiffest shaft in your bag.

As such it would seem that if you have stiff in the irons etc you should have stiff in the big dog.

The reg' in the driver will probably encourage the high, floaty carry rather than the more penetrating flights.

 

[USER1999]

So if it's a Newbie they are lying until proven otherwise. It's confusing this forum malarky but I'll remember that for next time.

If a newbie came on, with a swing speed of 225 mph, with a scan of a launch monitor readnig which proved it, and had a serious driver, then no worries. No complaints. Oh, and it does help to be a decent golfer. It really does.

If a newbie comes on here, and claims that an off the shelf driver has added say 60 yards to his drive, quotes swing speeds that can't mathematically hit the claimed distance, and with a regular shaft that plays soft, it is less believable. If he then goes on to claim that 99.9% are straight, it gets beyond a joke.

Ian has come on here, and far from gaining unfeasible distance, has lost it. Not such a boast really.

There is a difference?

 

[john0]

Imurg do you want to bet £50 that you can out-drive me? :ears:

 

[Airlie_Andy]

If a newbie came on, with a swing speed of 225 mph, with a scan of a launch monitor readnig which proved it, and had a serious driver, then no worries. No complaints. Oh, and it does help to be a decent golfer. It really does.

If a newbie comes on here, and claims that an off the shelf driver has added say 60 yards to his drive, quotes swing speeds that can't mathematically hit the claimed distance, and with a regular shaft that plays soft, it is less believable. If he then goes on to claim that 99.9% are straight, it gets beyond a joke.

Ian has come on here, and far from gaining unfeasible distance, has lost it. Not such a boast really.

There is a difference?

My original statement was very much tounge in cheek and I agree the other post in question became more and more ridiculous but it's not just that post. When I first joined I was all but called a liar for innocently mentioning I hit my 9 iron 150 yards and I've seen numerous other examples. I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt (unless the claims are completely ludicrous) before jumping all over someone that's all.

 

[CMAC]

I think its definitley a shaft issue.

I got new technology irons last summer and was at least a club shorter than my 10 yr old clubs, the shaft was too light, wrong kick point, not stiff enough etc etc and I was fitted by a qualified fitter:angry:

I assumed airli_Andy was having a laugh, he omitted the smiley to say so but it looked like humour to me, I could of course be totally wrong. Must admit my 4 wood will be around 240 and I'm an old geezer so Imurg's 225 is quite normal

 

[USER1999]

My original statement was very much tounge in cheek and I agree the other post in question became more and more ridiculous but it's not just that post. When I first joined I was all but called a liar for innocently mentioning I hit my 9 iron 150 yards and I've seen numerous other examples. I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt (unless the claims are completely ludicrous) before jumping all over someone that's all.

Sorry, must have misunderstood your original post.

Not sure why any one would jump on you for 150 with a 9i, I wouldn't have thought that was that unusual.

 

[moogie]

My original statement was very much tounge in cheek and I agree the other post in question became more and more ridiculous but it's not just that post. When I first joined I was all but called a liar for innocently mentioning I hit my 9 iron 150 yards and I've seen numerous other examples. I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt (unless the claims are completely ludicrous) before jumping all over someone that's all.

To be honest , when anybody makes claims of how FAR they can or cannot hit Any Iron, it is infact quite meaningless
Just lately the lofts on some irons have become so Ridiculously STRONG that golfers are getting big Egos
Most 9 irons are Really an 8 iron from 3 years ago
checkout the specs of the new taylormade RBZ irons......
3 iron is 17.5 degrees loft
thats a bloody 4 wood

 

[Airlie_Andy]

Sorry, must have misunderstood your original post.

Not sure why any one would jump on you for 150 with a 9i, I wouldn't have thought that was that unusual.

I was also very surprised at the reaction. I thought it maybe a tad longer than average but nothing special. I suppose I did omit the part about it being 20 yards wide of the target though.

 

[Airlie_Andy]

To be honest , when anybody makes claims of how FAR they can or cannot hit Any Iron, it is infact quite meaningless
Just lately the lofts on some irons have become so Ridiculously STRONG that golfers are getting big Egos
Most 9 irons are Really an 8 iron from 3 years ago
checkout the specs of the new taylormade RBZ irons......
3 iron is 17.5 degrees loft
thats a bloody 4 wood

Totally agree. My own clubs (Cobra S3) have strong lofts aswell. I'm just not sure people are actually boasting everytime they post a yardage. I'm now taking lessons and I'm actually losing a bit of distance to have a more controlled swing.

 

[harvey4banger]

I had the same problem when I bought my R9, I couldnt get anywhere near the back fence at my local range, when as a rule, I would be at least half way up the fence with my Titleist D2. In the end I found if a made a fuller slower swing and didnt try to cane the poo out of it, the R9 added another 20 yards onto my drives.

 

[moogie]

Totally agree. My own clubs (Cobra S3) have strong lofts aswell. I'm just not sure people are actually boasting everytime they post a yardage. I'm now taking lessons and I'm actually losing a bit of distance to have a more controlled swing.

The strong lofts helps golfers, means u can buy Less irons, add more utilities, or wedges
But can hinder too, if yardage gaps are too big

I think the next big boast should be.......
I HIT 16 GREENS IN REG TODAY
Now thats Golf...........:thup:

 

[19thagain]

I think the next big boast should be.......
I HIT 16 GREENS IN REG TODAY
Now thats Golf...........:thup:

Yes Moogie, you are correct BUT then it would be ... winter greens, much shorter of course or low SSS, has it been measured??

The edge on the craic is only the January BLUES kicking in, with the new season just round the corner - it is called golfing excitment!

 

[Airlie_Andy]

The strong lofts helps golfers, means u can buy Less irons, add more utilities, or wedges
But can hinder too, if yardage gaps are too big

I think the next big boast should be.......
I HIT 16 GREENS IN REG TODAY
Now thats Golf...........:thup:

Now that I would be boasting about!

 

[Twire]

Ian, I have a 910 D3 if you fancy swapping.

 

[pokerjoke]

Ventured to the range today - only becasue it had been blistering down with rain and the course would have resembled a lake.
Anyway, it's the first time I've taken the G20 and had a sustained session with it at the range.
And I've definitely lost yards.
I mentioned this in a thread a while back but now I'm certain.
There was a slight breeze behind. Previously I've been able to carry the ball ( even range balls) into the back fence fairly easily. I've lasered it at 225 yards. I'll even pitch some 4 woods into it.
Well to day I managed to pitch plenty of 4 woods into the fence but try as I might I couldn't get the driver to get one to pitch in the fence even with a real ball.

The G20 may have given me much more consistency and accuracy but it seems to have severely shortened my drives. The flight seemed particularly high but even more penetrating shots didn't fly as far as I'd expect. To be fair I did miss the flight of a couple of drives, looked up and couldn't pick the ball out but good drives that I did see didn't cut the mustard.
On the course I can normally outdrive CVG with my 4 wood. That still happens but the driver doesn't seem to outdrive by much more with the exception of a "Sunday Best".

Pain in the butt really as I thought I had things settled.
But it looks like I'm going to have to get it checked out.

Not a bad thing imo losing distance for accuracy.

 

[moogie]

The edge on the craic is only the January BLUES kicking in, with the new season just round the corner - it is called golfing excitment!

I totally GET the January / winter Blues, as due to a slipped disc Ive been limited to 15holes, 6holes, 9 holes, and 12 holes, in the last 9 weeks...........!!!!......
This is from a golfer that plays or practices atleast twice, sometimes 3-4 times per week
Work shifts with loadsa time off

So the New Season and Golf Excitement is very meaningful to this Frustrated Golfer

As for the CRAIC, thats why I joined the Forum last week, keep me going whilst im in recovery:thup:
Still undergoing physio........But going to ease my way back in, 9 holes per week to start

 

[anotherdouble]

Imurg it could be that you are rapidly catching the old timers up. Is this loss of yard thread an observation or complaint. I would hazard a guess that with your handicap you have an idea of the cause and therefore it should be easily sorted. Good luck with it and hope it sorts itself out soon.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Imurg you sure the Frag hasn't been tampering with it? Sounds like a shaft issue although I don't understand how you can go from hitting it well to not. I wouldn't worry. Take it on the course and bash it. If you're being outdriven by Fragger then take it back as it must be broken

 

[Imurg]

Did you get fitted for the G20 or was it simply swing a few and see what feels right?
I hazard a guess you've lost alot of ball speed with the reg shaft. You seemingly play stiff in every other club..

Was having a real Weston with my previous driver, Fragger had one and I used it and things went straight so I bought one...

Imurg do you want to bet £50 that you can out-drive me? :ears:

OK JohnO but I'm using my 4 wood!

Ian, I have a 910 D3 if you fancy swapping.

Don't tempt me Neil.....

Not a bad thing imo losing distance for accuracy.

Agreed PJ. But if I'm only hitting it as far as my 4 wood then there's not much point in having it.

The thing Is I'm not hitting it badly, I'm getting reasonable results so a bit of an observation but a bit of a complaint too. I've always - well for the last 5 years - thought I should get more distance from my driver than I do but finding the middle most of the time can't really be argued with.
Now and again I really get hold of one and it's into the next County but on average I'm shorter with the driver when compared to my 4 wood which ain't right.

And it's been a good read, this thread, Thanks Guys....