lost the will to live!!!!!!

[Imurg]

Bearing in mind you filled an empty space at the last minute, you have to take what you get as regards playing partners.....

And you could always have not played......

 

[North Mimms]

What is a "super Senior" ?

 

[6inchcup]

Bearing in mind you filled an empty space at the last minute, you have to take what you get as regards playing partners.....

And you could always have not played......

to be honest (and i always am even though some on here don't like what i say )i wish i had not as the experience spoilt what is probably my ownly game for a week or two.

 

[garyinderry]

wolfman, by playing and helping the new member he would be breaking the comp rules. the guy was asking him for on the fly golf tips which you just cant do in comp.

i can imagine him leaving his trolly at the wrong side of the green etc. these little things take time to learn. not in a monthly medal after being there for a wek

 

[6inchcup]

What is a "super Senior" ?

at my club it is over 65's

 

[pbrown7582]

Bearing in mind you filled an empty space at the last minute, you have to take what you get as regards playing partners.....

And you could always have not played......

and gone shopping instead.....

 

[6inchcup]

It does appear that your club has some faults here with regards to new arrivals but i still think you could of

Decided not to play

Played and helped the new member

Or make a knob of yourself by posting such outdated attitudes towards new golfers that produces so much bad feeling in clubs

I think you should arrange to take this new member out again and show him the course and encourage him before he packs in the game and blames you for never fulfilling his dream

In all seriousness i think your original post was trying to make a valid point about the bad club arrangement and most would of backed you on this, but you dug a deep hole when you slated a senior and a newcomer in one sentence, shame

i never slated the senior,i enjoy playing with the senior members as they all have a great line in banter and tales from the past as well as a wry sense of humour,it was the attitude of the newby constantly talking and asking questions i couldn't answer,even the senior told him to shut up numerous times,all in all a bad experience.

 

[6inchcup]

:mmm:

and gone shopping instead.....

it would have been more enjoyable and taken less time1

 

[JT77]

I don't think that you should have to mark a card for someone to get a handicap whilst your trying to play in a comp. The fact the chap has no handicap to me suggests he shouldn't be allowed to play during the comp, but have to get his 3 cards in and get a hcap first.
I personally would not want to play with the chap in a comp either, but if I was heading out for a round for a bit practice I would have no issues marking the card.

 

[6inchcup]

wolfman, by playing and helping the new member he would be breaking the comp rules. the guy was asking him for on the fly golf tips which you just cant do in comp.

i can imagine him leaving his trolley at the wrong side of the green etc. these little things take time to learn. not in a monthly medal after being there for a week

tried to hit his putter from 30 yds off the green from the SEMI ROUGH!!!!!!!!!! and walked across the first green WITH his trolley even after seeing both me and the other playing partner put ours in the trolley park,it was that kind of thing.

 

[garyinderry]

tried to hit his putter from 30 yds off the green from the SEMI ROUGH!!!!!!!!!! and walked across the first green WITH his trolley even after seeing both me and the other playing partner put ours in the trolley park,it was that kind of thing.

i rest my case you honour, i have no further questions

 

[Wolfman]

I guess as more details arrive i can see your point and frustrations


I think it was the tone and lack of details in the original post that made you appear as the one at fault, sorry 6" if we have offended you in anyway


I think in summary the fault is the club / Pro and nobody can really blame the newcomer for his lack of knowledge


I have played in a friendly comp with an older guy who had just joined the club and started playing, nice chap but...

He played with two thick gardening gloves to protect his hands and he too went across the green with his trolley and also walked on others lines on the green

We helped him understand to errors but it was hard work !!

Again case of club wanting the money i think

Good luck 6" hope your next game is more fun !

 

[Davey S2]

Interesting thread and I can see both sides.

The course must have been pretty jammed up behind them if 4 groups had to be let through. That affects a lot of people not just the OP and the newbie.

It seems as though this guy slipped through the net and didnt have a proper induction to make sure he know what the form was. Virtually impossible for the OP to concentrate on his game in this situation.

However If you had a last minute slot then you take who you are playing with and try to make the best of it.

Had it been me I would have spoken to the guy and suggested (in a very friendly way) that a competition wasnt the best time to have his first round and he was better off having a few lessons with the pro and after that say I would be happy to have 9 holes with him to give him some pointers on etiquette.

Regarding membership this shows why the traditional way of having a proposer and seconder works. They then have a responsibility to make sure the new member has a decent idea of the game and what to do.

I joined my club as a junior and before you were allowed out on your own you had to play a few holes with the guy who ran the juniors. I played 4 holes with him and showed I could hit the ball ok, knew to replace divots and didnt dump my bag on the green.

if a club allows people to just walk in and join then they should have something similar. Play a few holes with a nominated member just to check if they are ok to be let loose on their own. It would be for the benefit of the new member and the existing members.

 

[alnecosse]

I remember being on the first t when guy comes down he said just me and you other guy hasnt turned up im a late entry, hands me his card and i noticed the zero i thought he's gonna love playing with me i was off 20 at time, but ive got to say while the first few holes were intimidating for me at no time did he make me feel under pressure and he was in the rough with me every time my ball was there, by the end of my round i thought to myself this is what its about, at no time did he show any sign of my poor golf irritating him. I had never met the guy before as he was a member of the other club that shares course.But i think i learned something that day as well.

 

[garyinderry]

no doubt about it. playing with guys lower than you is more often than not a learning experiance.

 

[MDG]

So many different sides to this story and it is hard to come to a conclusion when I feel like we are being drip fed the whole saga...

However, I will say that the Professional should have 'vetted' the gentleman before accepting his membership, I don't necessarily agree with having to have a proposer/seconder but I can understand why it exists. In these economic conditions though a lot of Golf Clubs can no longer be too picky unfortunately. What are the chances this chap purchased all of his equipment from the Pro shop and then asked the shop assistant to sign up for membership too? There's not many golf courses that would then refuse after someone has spend a considerable sum in their shop...

 

[garyinderry]

how does someone join a golf club without having a proposer or seconder. what if you are new to the area?

 

[6inchcup]

I guess as more details arrive i can see your point and frustrations


I think it was the tone and lack of details in the original post that made you appear as the one at fault, sorry 6" if we have offended you in anyway


I think in summary the fault is the club / Pro and nobody can really blame the newcomer for his lack of knowledge


I have played in a friendly comp with an older guy who had just joined the club and started playing, nice chap but...

He played with two thick gardening gloves to protect his hands and he too went across the green with his trolley and also walked on others lines on the green

We helped him understand to errors but it was hard work !!

Again case of club wanting the money i think

Good luck 6" hope your next game is more fun !

i'm sorry if my original post lacked detail but it was written as a rant and my blood was still boiling but i did write that this chap had never set foot on a golf course in his life and to me it is just a whim on his behalf to play golf,i know we all had to learn and most took years to get to a standard were we thought it would be ok to play in comps. i know chaps who have played for years and never played a comp and just enjoy social golf,who knows with this chap he may get fed up and sell his gear next week and buy a boat he just seemed that kind,apparently they let 6 join without the usual method of joining because they paid up front and as the sec said it all goes into the clubs funds and i understand that but surly to god they should have at least held a golf club before or am i just whistling in the wind.

 

[Wildrover]

I have to agree with 6" on this whole thing.

There is no way on God's green earth that a total novice who has never even set foot on a course before should be playing amongst a medal comp. For his own sake as much as the other players. The experience of feeling under pressure as groups are waiting could have put him off for life and none of us wants that to happen to a new golfer. He should play a few bounce games with willing members who will show him the ropes first. I will personally play with anyone regardless of handicap / experience in a friendly game and would happily show them the etiquette etc, but I would have been seriously hacked off at having to play with a complete newby in a medal, as, I suspect, would everyone else behind us on the course.

 

[Dave3498]

I'm curious to know who was marking the 'super serior's card. Certainly the novice wouldn't have been allowed to because he hasn't yet obtained a handicap. You must have been marking two cards at the same time. The Pro was quite wrong to put a novice out in an official club competition knowing that he couldn't mark a card. What was the super senior's score by the way?