garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
you cant just say tough titty. there has to be some degree of give and take. the OP could easily turn around and say, "tough titty, learn yourself newbie".
lost the will to live!!!!!!
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you cant just say tough titty. there has to be some degree of give and take. the OP could easily turn around and say, "tough titty, learn yourself newbie".
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thecraw
Guest
Dam right you can, we've all been choppers and all played with choppers. You play a medal, you take your chances and accept who your out with.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
What many are forgetting here - and I mean this with all due respect to 28'ers - is that just having a 28 handicap doesn't automatically mean you can go round in 100. Just because you've put your 3 cards in - they may be 120, 130 and 140, is no reason to assume that next time you go out you're not going to score something similar.
The Guy could have been a seasoned 28'er who's never broken 120 before.
Would that have made a difference..?
The Guy could have been a seasoned 28'er who's never broken 120 before.
Would that have made a difference..?
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
well thats were you and i disagree. i think a medal game is not the place for a complete beginner. for their sake and others. now i appreciate that in some clubs you might not get out to the course on competition days but this is not the case at my place. you can get a game even if you not playin the comp. this makes it easier for complete beginners to get the practice they need to play in comps. there is no golfer, a week into their golfing lifes that should even be worrying about a handicap. they would be better off learning the basics.
this is what the OP said the beginner in question was doing during the comp. when the OP was telling him these prerequisite skills to get the ball around the course, he was in fact breaking the rules. we know what people are around here like about the rules of golf!
i have sympathy for the OP and also hope to see the beginner out again today but not in a medal for a little while yet. learn the basics and learn to enjoy it. :fore:
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thecraw
Guest
So how do you propose that a new golfer gets a handicap???
They must play a medal to get a h/cap. If everyone waits till they are breaking 100,90,80 or whatever it makes a mockery of the handicap system which to be fair is already a joke but that's another argument. A new member/beginner may be desperate to get a handicap to "get accepted" into a golf club to play and take part in competitions. A new member will only get to know people by playing in medals.
Very very blinkered view.
chris661
Money List Winner
You sure?
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
new members at our place have to play with a member three times to get his handicap. this does not need to be in competition.
even on competitions days there are members who will not necessarily be playing the comp. a new member can ask in the shop to be paired with someone for the purpose of marking cards or use the online system to see when members are playing and not in comp.
Losttheplot
Tour Rookie
The clubs Ive been a member of havent said you have to do your cards in a medal. I did mine by playing with a member and getting 3 cards done.
Maybe Ive broke the rules there but the pro said it was fine and so did the competitons secretary and the handicaps secretary. Maybe were all wrong.....
Maybe Ive broke the rules there but the pro said it was fine and so did the competitons secretary and the handicaps secretary. Maybe were all wrong.....
RGDave
Money List Winner
This is certainly true at mine, although I must admit I've always done it "alongside" a proper comp. Then again, I've not been a beginner last 2 times. When I was a beginner, I played with some nice members mid-week and out of everyone's way.
I'm not condoning the OP, but it's not as black and white as some are feeling. I think it is a grey area, maybe Saturday mid-morning is not the time or place.
(I don't really care t.b.h. except it's an interesting thread, regardless)
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
the way its done here in ireland is - you play 3 rounds with a 2 members signing the cards. you then put those cards and money for GUI card into an envelope in the club shop. this is sent and away and a few days later you recieve your GUI card plus handicap.
only then can you then enter competitions. what is the point of paying for a competition that you cant win because you dont have a GUI card. it defeats the purpose of actually being in a competition.
only then can you then enter competitions. what is the point of paying for a competition that you cant win because you dont have a GUI card. it defeats the purpose of actually being in a competition.
chris661
Money List Winner
That is the case at your club... not necessarily everywhere.
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thecraw
Guest
2 bounce games with a member with an active handicap and one medal card is the required quota at my place and has been since I've played golf.
Emerald Golf may be different!:fore:
Emerald Golf may be different!:fore:
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
North Mimms
Tour Winner
Bit in bold -They have to do a medal round. Not compete in a Medal comp.
While 6inch's post might have been extreme, I think the Pro was daft to suggest to a new never played on grass player that they go out IN A MEDAL COMPETITON to put in one of their three cards.
The Pro could have arranged to someone to mark this chap's card outside of a competiton, Sheer Laziness on part of Pro
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Again I say - what if this Guy was a seasoned 28 handicapper who's never broken 120...?
He's going to take the same number of shots - ok you shouldn't have to point him in the right direction but the case is similar in many respects.....
Would the OP be having the same rant in this situation...?
He's going to take the same number of shots - ok you shouldn't have to point him in the right direction but the case is similar in many respects.....
Would the OP be having the same rant in this situation...?
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
my whole argument is based around the fact that this guy has only had a golf club in his hand for a week. now even if he played for 7 days, he still would not have the skills to manuvour a ball with great success around a full 18 hole golf course.
try this...
who would enjoy it if i went and bought a guitar tomoro and headed for the open mike night down my local next sunday night. would i enjoy it? would the others with me enjoy it?
try this...
who would enjoy it if i went and bought a guitar tomoro and headed for the open mike night down my local next sunday night. would i enjoy it? would the others with me enjoy it?
North Mimms
Tour Winner
I play regularly with a seasoned 28 hcp chap who has broken 100 a couple of times but is more usually round the 115+ mark.
He has entered stablefords but certainly wouldnt want to do a medal comp
chris661
Money List Winner
It doesn't matter he paid his money to be a member and as such has the same rights as anybody else.
garyinderry said:
Bizarre, but maybe somebody would.
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thecraw
Guest
Absolute PANTS with a capital P. This newbie has payed his fees, he's entitled to play in the medal, he's entitled to get a handicap, he's entitled to learn and practice, he's entitled to be part of the club and that includes meeting new members. The pro has done nothing wrong. That is a fact. The pro has introduced a new member irrespective of his playing ability to two faces and fellow members.
The pro has got the new member a game and it's up to the OP and the other playing partner how they react to it.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
But he could if he wanted to - that's the point. He would be virtually the same as the guy in the OP
