Kellfire
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Voted labour. Our area stayed very similar to last time out with a labour hold.
What's the feeling? Conservative collapse? Labour gains? Voter apathy? I think it will go the same as usual but with less votes cast.
As I said both Labour and the Tories haven't had a bloody nose, it's been broken.
So what does it say that pro remain Lib Dem are making big strides ?[/QUOT
Dont think today is finished by a long un Hobbit. Looking forward to hearing the excuses. ðŸ˜Well predicted. I thought the Tories would get a kicking but I thought Labour would actually pick up a few seats. Maybe the Jezza popularity bubble has burst.
Not really. Cons & Labour are currently held in contempt, not many other options on the ballot paper at local level. Lib Dems are usually very strong at local level but the last time this round of elections was held the Lib Dems were getting a kicking for being in coalition. Yesterday restored them at local level in areas they were previously strong in.So what does it say that pro remain Lib Dem are making big strides ?
As I said both Labour and the Tories haven't had a bloody nose, it's been broken.
We need to see if this is replicated. In many cases the options apart from Lab / Con are limited so are people simply voting for anyone but the main 2? If you ever look at Greens policies they are largely bonkers but the move towards a less polluting society still has to be a good one.In my area seems the greens gained 42 councillors and now have 48 and UKIP lost 54 and now have 17. So less far right crap and more care for the environment can only be a good thing.
We need to see if this is replicated. In many cases the options apart from Lab / Con are limited so are people simply voting for anyone but the main 2? If you ever look at Greens policies they are largely bonkers but the move towards a less polluting society still has to be a good one.
Green policies taken from their web site
- Cancel Trident replacement, saving at least £110 billion over the next 30 years. Totally agree
- A humane immigration and asylum system that recognises and takes responsibility for Britain’s ongoing role in causing the flow of migrants worldwide. Where's my sack cloth and ashes? I agree with a sensible immigration and asylum policy, and think the UK's policy is currently off kilter but the second half of the sentence is just bollox.
- Implement a UK-wide strategy to tackle gender based violence, including domestic violence, rape and sexual abuse, FGM and trafficking. Totally agree
- An ethical foreign policy that builds capacity for conflict resolution, and end support to aggressive wars of intervention. No more arms sales to oppressive regimes. first part; eh? Does the ethical foreign policy include police actions? Sounds too Chamberlin-esque to me. second part; totally agree but what about police actions where a big country is bullying a neighbour? third part; if that means the likes of Saudi, totally agree
- Trade rules that respect human rights, labour standards, environmental standards and climate commitments with mechanisms for individuals, groups and communities to bring grievances. Totally agree
- Strengthen the global deal on climate change, including by delivering climate justice and promoting ecologically sustainable development so that poorer countries can cope with the impacts of climate change Too wishy-washy. Define it, in conjunction with a conglomerate of other countries and I might be interested. "Climate Justice..." Its lofty language like that that switches people off.
- Increase the overseas aid budget from 0.7% of GDP to 1.0% of GDP. No. Arbitrary figures are unintelligent.
People may well not agree with some of them but I'd hardly call them bonkers. In fact in a perfect world where we lived by these policies or say some of the more ERG right wing Tory/UKIP policies I know which one I'd be more happy in.