King Kenny ??

[Deleted member 1740]

Thanks for that good to see you can have rational conversation Stuart ..

All i give is my opinion , dont remember mentioning murinho or chelsea , didnt know we were comparing them two !!! i do think Gerrard , Carragher , & Alonso were in their prime when ye won it .. (im surprised you dont think that )

I also think AC Milan let ye off the hook they had ye dead & buried in that game .. (not suprised you dont agree with that in fairnes)

Il stand by what i said that most teams including Everton , (esp everton) would love a cup win & a top 10 finish but the expectation at Liverpool is higher , (obviously you dont as you wouldnt think its and i quote "a load of shite")

I do believe your tactics around carroll are wrong , he made a name at NUFC playing a cetain way , ye buy him & play a different way . (you obviously dont)

I do think Kuyt is a great pro & would start in most other teams , (you obviously dont)

As for the quality players you have in your acadamy or reserve team , i was judging that on what ye have breaking through to the 1st team. i wouldnt be up to speed on that so i wil gladly take your word for that ..

As i say tho just my opinion ..

I was referring to your comments I quoted.


Alonso had only joined that season we won the European cup with a very poor squad I may add and although we were dead and buried at half time, rafas change of tactics and substitutions got us back into that game.

Rafa was expected to win the league every season he was here but wasn't backed with the budget mourinho had.
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Kuyt for all his hardwork, his 2nd touch is always a foul.

Carroll has had a couple of decent games but he lacks that bit of effort in front of goal for me.

My expectations of my club is to be challenging for trophies and putting silverware on the table, so far we've won one but some of the league performances have been disgusting and that's down to the players.

We have to earn the right to play champions league football and not just because were Liverpool football club.

 

[Garesfield ACE]

After seeing the Reina sending off yesterday, I'm surprised Reina was stupid enough to react. However, as an Ex-Forest lad, I've always respected James Perch and no one could blame him for leaving when Newcastle came calling...after seeing what he did yesterday, he is dead to me, an absolute bellend of the highest order. It's one thing to trip the goalkeeper to provoke a reaction, it's quite another to do a Drogba to make sure the goalkeeper gets sent off. I thought he had more class than that.



Clearly he's been in the Toon for too long

Well Aztecs Perch has just been a makeshift player until the last 6/7 games.....where he has been simply outstanding for us....a top prospect in the making now..earning his place in the team on MERIT now.....so glad we took him from you now,as he was hopeless at 1st,but clearly improvement under Pardews coaching

 

[Naybrains]

*** Gloryhunter alert ***** Shouldn't you be on your way to Blackburn.

:rofl:

Gonna sit back and enjoy this one, Would like to see Blackburn get something from it...but unlikely.

 

[Dodger]

Have never rated Dalglish as a manager and have always seen him as a bit of a bottler, who always got out when the going got a bit tough. He inherited one of the greatest club sides English football has ever seen and therefore had an easy few years, but when they all started to age and the replacements weren't as good and the going got a bit tougher, he jacked it all in. Then he got given a shed-load of cash at Blackburn and basically bought promotion to the Premiership and then the Premiership title, but once again, when the results started to not go their way and the stars moved on, he jacked it in again. And I think the less said about his time at Newcastle, the better! IMO one of the truly great British players, but not a great manager.

You forget to mention the Celtic debacle.

The man is a dud and as a modern day gaffer he is a failure.

 

[wolfie]

Another routine victory lastnight for the devils. And as for non United supporters calling all United supporters gloryhunters, get a life. That seems to be the only thing yous can ever come up with. I have no problem with a good debate but when its always the same being thrown about then whats the point. You just show your jealousy and you cant stand the fact that WE ARE UNITED AND WE DO WHAT WE WANT......Bring it on, 20 league titles sounds good to me.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

You forget to mention the Celtic debacle.

The man is a dud and as a modern day gaffer he is a failure.

Your hatred aside for Kenny, putting silverware on the table in his 1st full season and a semi final of the fa cup surely isn't failure.

Ok the league performances have a left a lot to be desired at times but the players need to shoulder a lot of the blame.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Another routine victory lastnight for the devils. And as for non United supporters calling all United supporters gloryhunters, get a life. That seems to be the only thing yous can ever come up with. I have no problem with a good debate but when its always the same being thrown about then whats the point. You just show your jealousy and you cant stand the fact that WE ARE UNITED AND WE DO WHAT WE WANT......Bring it on, 20 league titles sounds good to me.

Hello wolfie, come on lad, I didn't think you would bite.

Remember my comments when Auburn warrior was having a go at you. That is what I really thought. Said in jest.

You should be happy lad, chill out. Your top of the league.

I didn't think it was possible to catch a wolf with a fishing rod, I'll have to put it on you tube.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Hello wolfie, come on lad, I didn't think you would bite.

Remember my comments when Auburn warrior was having a go at you. That is what I really thought. Said in jest.

You should be happy lad, chill out. Your top of the league.

I didn't think it was possible to catch a wolf with a fishing rod, I'll have to put it on you tube.

There's no need to justify your comments, he's probably never been to Old Trafford.....

 

[One Planer]

Another routine victory lastnight for the devils. And as for non United supporters calling all United supporters gloryhunters, get a life. That seems to be the only thing yous can ever come up with. I have no problem with a good debate but when its always the same being thrown about then whats the point. You just show your jealousy and you cant stand the fact that WE ARE UNITED AND WE DO WHAT WE WANT......Bring it on, 20 league titles sounds good to me.

This has put a smile on my face.

I'm a Stoke City fan. Supported them for as long as I've had an interest in football. I'm a season ticket holder and have been for many years. I've supported them through relegation, promotion, even when we were playing at the old Victoria ground standing on the concrete terreces. I've seen cup wins at Old Wembley, travelled to all parts of the UK to see my team play. I've done un-paid steward work, been a ball boy (Many moons ago), even helped out the kit man at the old ground.

Why?

Because they are my LOCAL team!

People who call themselves supporters actually go to the games week in, week out, home and away, they are the SUPPORTERS as they SUPPORT their club, both financialy and with loyalty.

Do you go to Old Trafford (Lovely ground BTW) week in, week out?

If not, then you are a FAN, no different than any other United "supporter" that's never even been to Manchester, let alone The Theatre of Dreams.

I'm sorry if this comes over as a little strong, believe me when I say I don't mean to cause offence, but people who "support" the bigger clubs only do because they win things, hence the glory hunter tag.

 

[wolfie]

Sorry Liverbirdie I couldnt remember if you were one of the guys slating me last time. And im not entering another debate as I have already justified myself on a previous thread and answered all the questions. I agree there are many people out there who call themselves fans and follow their team on a screen. Not me. That could also be said for every team.
It does make me laugh though that you guys have so much hatred against United supporters, you all make it just too obvious.
And as for you Gareth, you should be ashamed to even admit you support Stoke with the style of football they play.And iv already had people telling me how they support local teams and just how good they are. Go and read the thread thats already had this debate and vent your fustration somewhere else!!!!!

 

[One Planer]

And as for you Gareth, you should be ashamed to even admit you support Stoke with the style of football they play.

Why would/should anyone be ashamed of supporting their local team?

As for the style of play:

Stoke v Liverpool = 1 win, 1 draw
Stoke v Tottenham = 1 Draw, 1 Win
Stoke v Chelsea = 1 Draw, 1 loss
Stoke v Man United = 1 Draw, 1 Loss
Stoke V Man City = 1 Draw, 1 Loss

Out of the above 8 matches, 3 losses against much, much bigger clubs. What does that tell you about our stye of play?

And iv already had people telling me how they support local teams and just how good they are.

Like I said before, nothing wrong with having pride in your local team whether they be Premier leagure or Blue Square Premier league. Don't quite get your point here

 

[One Planer]

Firstly. Sorry to the OP for hijacking his thread.

Back to the point

I think Kenny has done a good job turning Liverpool around from their poor start. I think he handled the Suarez situation poorly but that's my opinion.

As for his style of managment, when he won the league with Blackburn, fine, but the game has moved on since then but he "seems" to reply on club history and pride to get the players motivated.

He could learn from Martin O'Neill as regards that.

I think he'll go back to his previos roll within the club and they will look for someone with a more modern skill-set.

 

[wolfie]

I think everyone is aware of Stokes style of play, even many of Stoke fans comment on it. Every team in the league hate going to stoke because they dont play football.FACT!!!!!!!
I never said there was a problem with supporting your local team but i have heard it enough because when I was getting slatted before about supporting United there were only a few points people continuously stated and that was one of them. Im a United supporter and proud of it,why just not leave it at that. If they were not sitting on top of the league people would say nothing to me.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I think everyone is aware of Stokes style of play, even many of Stoke fans comment on it. Every team in the league hate going to stoke because they dont play football.FACT!!!!!!!
I never said there was a problem with supporting your local team but i have heard it enough because when I was getting slatted before about supporting United there were only a few points people continuously stated and that was one of them. Im a United supporter and proud of it,why just not leave it at that. If they were not sitting on top of the league people would say nothing to me.

Wolfie, who are your local team in Ireland and do you go and watch them often??

 

[wolfie]

Wolfie, who are your local team in Ireland and do you go and watch them often??

Local team are Randalstown United and yes I do watch them but a long way off watching EPL. I have also answered all this before aswell.
Where are all the United supporters to back me up here??????

 

[One Planer]

I think everyone is aware of Stokes style of play, even many of Stoke fans comment on it. Every team in the league hate going to stoke because they dont play football.FACT!!!!!!!

Our players play football the same as any other football team in the world that's why it's called football FACT.

Stoke play a physical game (As it should be played IMHO). No different than Blackburn did under Mark Hughes and they had a few successful seasons too. As I recall they were also slated for their style of play.

Could it be that the players in the current game don't like the physical side of it? Take Carrolls dive in the Newcastle match or Suarez most weeks for that matter. Gareth Bale everytime a player goes near him end up on his arse through minimal contact, the same as Ronaldo used to for united.

The fact of the matter is that todays Premier league players don't like a physical game, much like the players in Spain and Italy. Yes I'll agree a high quality passing game of football is a beautful thing to watch, but so is a match with a few 50/50 challenges where both players are committed, clatter each other, stand up , shake hands and carry on (like they used to), rather than rolling over feigning injury. That's why teams don't like coming to Stoke FACT!

I never said there was a problem with supporting your local team but i have heard it enough because when I was getting slatted before about supporting United there were only a few points people continuously stated and that was one of them. Im a United supporter and proud of it,why just not leave it at that.

I never saw the other thread, I dont recall anyway, so can't comment on it's content. If you follow United and are proud to more power to you. You're obviously passionate about it and stand up for your team well.

If they were not sitting on top of the league people would say nothing to me

So why do you support Man united?

 

[wolfie]

Whats wrong Gareth dont you like me mouthing about the team you support?? Not nice is it??
I have supported United my whole life, my dad and all my older brothers do aswell. I was taken many times to Old Trafford as a child and met players and Sir Alex himself. My best mates brother played for them until last year so got some perks from that. I love United and always will and dont care what people say.

 

[harvey4banger]

King Kenny = Dead Man Walking

 

[One Planer]

Whats wrong Gareth dont you like me mouthing about the team you support?? Not nice is it??

Water off a ducks back pal :thup:

I hear it most Mondays at work if we've played a "Big 4" team their "supporters"

I was just stating a FACT!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Local team are Randalstown United and yes I do watch them but a long way off watching EPL. I have also answered all this before aswell.
Where are all the United supporters to back me up here??????

I'm only asking fella don't be so defensive!