King Kenny ??

[bladeplayer]

Was having this chat with a couple of red fans yesterday , Expectation is the problem , offer most teams a carling cup , top 10 & FA Cup semi... they would take hand arm and all ..

There is something amiss with tactics tho , if ya buy a guy like carroll you may play a guy off him that has an understanding with him . Pool had the same faults with crouch & it was crouches fault aswell .. mayb not ..

Kuyt is a true professional & would start every game at most other clubs ? whats the craic with bellamy ? fall out rumoured. is there truth in that ?.. I have no time for KD just cant take to the man (im sure he will be gutted to hear ) he brought the passion back but i do think he lacks in tactics & management skills , this is anfield , kop power & pride will only win you so much , quality players will win you League & Europe etc ..

As for Rafa who had SG , JC , Alonso at possibly their best was lucky to win that final guys congrats for it but Milan lost that one .. Rafa is no saviour , he went to buy success aswell & spent on worse players than kenny did , & left very little to come through the ranks aswell ..

Would any other manager get away with KD current form .. still nervous of ye in the semi tho ..

Did Reina actualy touch the guy , i think not ..

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Have never rated Dalglish as a manager and have always seen him as a bit of a bottler, who always got out when the going got a bit tough. He inherited one of the greatest club sides English football has ever seen and therefore had an easy few years, but when they all started to age and the replacements weren't as good and the going got a bit tougher, he jacked it all in. Then he got given a shed-load of cash at Blackburn and basically bought promotion to the Premiership and then the Premiership title, but once again, when the results started to not go their way and the stars moved on, he jacked it in again. And I think the less said about his time at Newcastle, the better! IMO one of the truly great British players, but not a great manager.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Modern football eh sack the manager after 15months.....Pathetic.

Kenny has to look at himself tactics and team selections wise but its not all his fault.

How about these shithouse footballers start standing up and actually putting a shift in.

These players (not just Liverpool, see chelsea earlier this season) think they can just turn up and play when they want to and let the manager take the ***.


Carroll certainly nailed his colours to the mast with his antics, he did not want to score or create a goal.

Imagine if saurez would've dived, cheated and had Krul sent off the way perch did everybody would be calling for his head.

Agenda?? ........

 

[bladeplayer]

Was not all Roy Hodgsons fault either , would have been better long term appointment IMO >>

 

[Liverbirdie]

Was not all Roy Hodgsons fault either , would have been better long term appointment IMO >>

Hodgson - never,never, never again.

If we had Hodgson now we would also have Robert Huth and Carlton Cole, another 2 big donkeys.We'd have looked like Blackpool beach.

Stu, your right Kenny is at fault, but some players need to take a long look at themselves.

On recent form, I include Reina on that, seems tied to his line the last 2-3 months.

 

[Aztecs27]

After seeing the Reina sending off yesterday, I'm surprised Reina was stupid enough to react. However, as an Ex-Forest lad, I've always respected James Perch and no one could blame him for leaving when Newcastle came calling...after seeing what he did yesterday, he is dead to me, an absolute bellend of the highest order. It's one thing to trip the goalkeeper to provoke a reaction, it's quite another to do a Drogba to make sure the goalkeeper gets sent off. I thought he had more class than that.



Clearly he's been in the Toon for too long

 

[The19thHole]

Liverpool were thrashed 4-0 by Spurs by the way.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Liverpool were thrashed 4-0 by Spurs by the way.

I didn't say we weren't. It was against 9 men. Spurs were great on the day though, at the same time.

They did come and totally defend for a draw at Anfield, at the same time, which was what I referred to.

Haven't see rosecott back since.......

 

[Shaunmg]

As far as his managerial credentials go, they speak for themselves; 3 league titles, 2 FA cups and carling cup at Liverpool, and taking Blackburn from Division 2 to premier league title. He never had chance to prove himself in Europe with the Liverpool ban

As a lifelong Liverpool fan, I can remember where I was and what I was doing the day I heard the news he signed for Liverpool.

I hope he at least gets one more season after this and proves a point. Although overjoyed when he became manager again, there was a niggling fear he had been out of the game for too long, and that the mighty would fall. Nobody likes to see great champion make a comeback then only to be remembered for his failings.

P.S.
He’s a great golfer, maybe he’ll go back to that

 

[bladeplayer]

How would these endings seem as an overall season to ye guys ,

carling cup ,fa cup & 8th place ? ?

carling cup , fa cup finalists , 6th ?

carling , beaten semi derby , 8th ?

For us to win anything & be in top 10 would be massive , just wondering how ye think . would option 3 see the end of KD ? IF so who would you like instead ?

 

[nufc86]

it's always the same when a club hires a legend as manager, how will the board look if the sack him after giving him all that money?

carroll was good for us because we got the ball from back to front quick and gave him a lot of crosses at a reasonable standard. on the other hand liverpool take to long to get the ball the wings and when they do the crosses are terrible.

perch thing was a brass neck but you can't watch a game now without seeing it, all it needs is a few red cards and it will stop.

 

[Aztecs27]

perch thing was a brass neck but you can't watch a game now without seeing it, all it needs is a few red cards and it will stop.

Oh, I agree, I was just shocked it was Perchy. I watched him for years at Forest and he was always a classy individual. If it had been Bellamy in the same situation, I'd have thought nothing of it.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

As for Rafa who had SG , JC , Alonso at possibly their best was lucky to win that final guys congrats for it but Milan lost that one .. Rafa is no saviour , he went to buy success aswell & spent on worse players than kenny did , & left very little to come through the ranks aswell ..

Bladeplayer what you've wrote above is a load of shite. As for rafa buying worse players, he never had the chance to spend a warchest like mourinho did at chelsea. Ok some signings didn't work out but every manager has buys that don't work out.

As for not bringing players through, our academy at the minute is full of really good potential lads but that takes years to come to fruition. Rafa also made a massive contribution to the academy and now were seeing that.

Rafas total net spend in 5yrs was below £75m and in that time we'd won a Euroopean cup an fa cup, ranked #1 in European football, at a time he was also fighting the American "owners" and had very little support.

 

[Shaunmg]

perch thing was a brass neck but you can't watch a game now without seeing it, all it needs is a few red cards and it will stop.

Deja vu for Pepe, he should have learned from the Arjen Robben affair

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Oh, I agree, I was just shocked it was Perchy. I watched him for years at Forest and he was always a classy individual. If it had been Bellamy in the same situation, I'd have thought nothing of it.

I thought it was only the nasty foreigners that dived and cheated.

If it was suarez the xneophobic press would be calling for him to be hung drawn and quartered. Fact.

 

[Aztecs27]

Indeed. To be fair, Carroll is as bad. At least the Foreigners actually make it look plausible when they dive!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Indeed. To be fair, Carroll is as bad. At least the Foreigners actually make it look plausible when they dive!

Carroll diving was an utter disgrace and to me he nailed his colours to the mast yesterday where is loyalty lies.

 

[wolfie]

King Kenny!!!! What a manager, JOKE!!
The only thing I enjoy more than United winning is the look on Kennys face when they are getting beat, so I have been getting plenty of enjoyment lately.

 

[Liverbirdie]

King Kenny!!!! What a manager, JOKE!!
The only thing I enjoy more than United winning is the look on Kennys face when they are getting beat, so I have been getting plenty of enjoyment lately.

*** Gloryhunter alert ***** Shouldn't you be on your way to Blackburn.

 

[bladeplayer]

Bladeplayer what you've wrote above is a load of shite. As for rafa buying worse players, he never had the chance to spend a warchest like mourinho did at chelsea. Ok some signings didn't work out but every manager has buys that don't work out.

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Thanks for that good to see you can have rational conversation Stuart ..

All i give is my opinion , dont remember mentioning murinho or chelsea , didnt know we were comparing them two !!! i do think Gerrard , Carragher , & Alonso were in their prime when ye won it .. (im surprised you dont think that )

I also think AC Milan let ye off the hook they had ye dead & buried in that game .. (not suprised you dont agree with that in fairnes)

Il stand by what i said that most teams including Everton , (esp everton) would love a cup win & a top 10 finish but the expectation at Liverpool is higher , (obviously you dont as you wouldnt think its and i quote "a load of shite")

I do believe your tactics around carroll are wrong , he made a name at NUFC playing a cetain way , ye buy him & play a different way . (you obviously dont)

I do think Kuyt is a great pro & would start in most other teams , (you obviously dont)

As for the quality players you have in your acadamy or reserve team , i was judging that on what ye have breaking through to the 1st team. i wouldnt be up to speed on that so i wil gladly take your word for that ..

As i say tho just my opinion ..