King Kenny ??

[Liverbirdie]

Good night, knobby.

No you're right.

I've just realised that a quick insult totally negates the fact that I am right.

I apoligise.

You win.

[/QUOTE]

Listen fella, I really try to stay away from personal insults on here, as it is so easy to do and isn't clever or brave. However, your the first.

I'll talk to anyone on here, no matter who they support. I've had lots of good natured banter with Man U, Everton and others. No problem, but when wind up merchants come on giving it loads, normally to swiftly disappear when faced with correct facts or a cogent argument, I can't be arsed with them. The Suarez/Dalglish has been covered more than once, and search the previous posts for my views.

If you want to talk footy, and are sensible I would apologise, but not this time.

Good night, Crapper hack.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Difference is Sir Fergie is a legend and needs to prove nothing to no man!

Once again he's risen to the top when the going gets tough!

Crawford I hope you're fishing....

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Crap hacker, if you have read the 115page document on the suarez/evra case you will know suarez has been cleared in the court of law as being a racist.



I doubt you have been bothered to read any facts of this case and have based your opinion on this matter on what you've read in the red tops.


You by the response you've given in this thread have shown yourself to be a complete and utter ***.

 

[Naybrains]

by the response you've given in this thread have shown yourself to be a complete and utter ***.

 

[CrapHacker]

Crap hacker, if you have read the 115page document on the suarez/evra case you will know suarez has been cleared in the court of law as being a racist.



I doubt you have been bothered to read any facts of this case and have based your opinion on this matter on what you've read in the red tops.


You by the response you've given in this thread have shown yourself to be a complete and utter ***.

Suarez was found guilty of racist behaviour. Which was down to his stupidity.

It's not his guilt that worries me. It's Dalglishes reaction to it.

I've read quite a lot of stuff about the case, and imo the person that comes out of it worst is Dalglish.

I think his reaction throughout the case was appalling.

He could have minimised the situation, minimised the problem, and made the whole thing dissapear.

But he didn't.

What he did was to open himself, and Liverpool to ridicule.

And I, for one, will take that opportunity time and time again.

:ears:

 

[Slime]

Suarez was found guilty of racist behaviour. Which was down to his stupidity.

It's not his guilt that worries me. It's Dalglishes reaction to it.

I've read quite a lot of stuff about the case, and imo the person that comes out of it worst is Dalglish.

I think his reaction throughout the case was appalling.

He could have minimised the situation, minimised the problem, and made the whole thing dissapear.

But he didn't.

What he did was to open himself, and Liverpool to ridicule.

:thup:

 

[Liverbirdie]

Suarez was found guilty of racist behaviour. Which was down to his stupidity.

It's not his guilt that worries me. It's Dalglishes reaction to it.

I've read quite a lot of stuff about the case, and imo the person that comes out of it worst is Dalglish.

I think his reaction throughout the case was appalling.

He could have minimised the situation, minimised the problem, and made the whole thing dissapear.

But he didn't.

What he did was to open himself, and Liverpool to ridicule.

And I, for one, will take that opportunity time and time again.

:ears:

From what perspective:-

1. An anti-rascism campaigner.
2. A moral standpoint, as you are against all social injustice.
3. A Man U fan/ or someone who has a grudge against LFC or Kenny Dalglish.

I think LFC and Kenny have managed the whole sting appallingly, but it does not mean they are bigotted or rascist.

2 facts for you:-

Kenny Dalglish crossed the religious divide in Glasgow to play for Celtic despite being a Rangers fan as a boy.

Kenny Dalglish signed liverpool's first black player (John Barnes).

How does that fit with your rascist/bigot argument?

 

[CrapHacker]

From what perspective:-

1. An anti-rascism campaigner.
2. A moral standpoint, as you are against all social injustice.
3. A Man U fan/ or someone who has a grudge against LFC or Kenny Dalglish.

I think LFC and Kenny have managed the whole sting appallingly, but it does not mean they are bigotted or rascist.

2 facts for you:-

Kenny Dalglish crossed the religious divide in Glasgow to play for Celtic despite being a Rangers fan as a boy.

Kenny Dalglish signed liverpool's first black player (John Barnes).

How does that fit with your rascist/bigot argument?

Please please don't take this so personally.

I meant to wind you up, but not to this degree - for which I genuinely apologise.

If Kenny had come out and immediately said,

"Yes that sort of language is unacceptable, but the lad was talking in his native language, and wasn't thinking about the responsibilities we have as modern footballers. I take full responsibility - it's my fault we haven't set up any education to the customs and standards we expect of all our players. I appreciate you bringing this to our attention, and we'll immediately put things in place so this sort of misunderstanding doesn't occur in future. Blah blah blah"

He'd have been seen as a hero and a modern day Martin Luther King.

As it is, the least that Liverpool are is a laughing stock, and they leave themselves open to jibes like mine. Believe me, I won't be the last person to bring this up. It's what rival football fans do, so please don't take it personally.

As an Arsenal fan I have an understanding of the frustration Liverpool fans feel.

I do, however, think Kenny was a great footballer, but is an awful manager and I genuinely believe he's an embarrassment to them and they'd be soooo much better off without him.

Which is why, as an Arsenal fan, I am happy that it looks like he's staying.

Peace out. Have a virtual pint on me.

:cheers:

 

[CrapHacker]

Oh, btw

I think the case was really important because it brings to the fore that it is possible to not be racist and still make racist jibes.

This could be really important from a fan's point of view.

Hopefully this will stop all this stupid 'banning for life' for people who get caught up in the moment and say stupid things in the heat of the moment.

Ok, give them a short ban, and then let them back into the grounds where most of them have been more often than the temperamental, overpaid primadonnas (?) they spend fortunes on supporting.

So hopefully Liverpool can still make something positive come from this whole affair.

 

[jpenno]

Liverbirdie - I thought Howard Gayle was our first Black player? - He scored against Bayern in the 1981 European Cup Semi Final, which I think was sometime before John Barnes signed?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Please please don't take this so personally.

I meant to wind you up, but not to this degree - for which I genuinely apologise.

If Kenny had come out and immediately said,

"Yes that sort of language is unacceptable, but the lad was talking in his native language, and wasn't thinking about the responsibilities we have as modern footballers. I take full responsibility - it's my fault we haven't set up any education to the customs and standards we expect of all our players. I appreciate you bringing this to our attention, and we'll immediately put things in place so this sort of misunderstanding doesn't occur in future. Blah blah blah"

He'd have been seen as a hero and a modern day Martin Luther King.

As it is, the least that Liverpool are is a laughing stock, and they leave themselves open to jibes like mine. Believe me, I won't be the last person to bring this up. It's what rival football fans do, so please don't take it personally.

As an Arsenal fan I have an understanding of the frustration Liverpool fans feel.

I do, however, think Kenny was a great footballer, but is an awful manager and I genuinely believe he's an embarrassment to them and they'd be soooo much better off without him.

Which is why, as an Arsenal fan, I am happy that it looks like he's staying.

Peace out. Have a virtual pint on me.

:cheers:

Firstly, I think you should choose your wind up subject matter a lot more carefully. Maybe next time bring up Apartheid with the South Africans on here, the vagaries of Ulster with the good people of Ulster and Western Scotland. If you chose to wind us up on the deficiencies of our manager from a tactical perspective or our team's inability to beat lower end prem teams, then fair does, as that was what most people on the thread chose to do.

I think you went too far, by bringing into it a very sensitive subject matter that in extreme cases has brought much pain to our city and team. Even the LFC fans have vastly different views on here. Again I don't want to go over it all again, as frankly bored with it, and as predicted, the sincerity of people just using it as a stick to beat LFC with, is in my opinion worse that the original offence. It may have even set back, in some ways, the need for our society to get rid of rascism, which is what I am in favour of. In other ways it will have helped it.

I don't think LFC can take any positives from the Suarez affair, and neither should they, as profitting from it would be the wrong thing to do anyway.

I stand by it was a knob comment, the tone of your post didn't suggest you were just on a wind up. However, I dont know you well enough to know if you are a knob, but I will take this opportunity to apologise. I will accept your virtual pint,I will only buy you a half back, and no crisps either.

Let peace reign in the happy valley of GM forum once again, and may the good lord look down on us all and let brotherly love be amongst us again.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Liverbirdie - I thought Howard Gayle was our first Black player? - He scored against Bayern in the 1981 European Cup Semi Final, which I think was sometime before John Barnes signed?

You are correct, that is why I worded it as signed (and not played for), as Howie came through the ranks.

Well spotted though.Just semantics.

How could I forget howie Gayle, he came on for the king (I think Kenny even shook his hand, only joking BTW), but was later subbed after tearing Bayern's flank a new one.

Just checked it again - I could have said it better,actually. Kenny got loads of stick for this BTW, I'd like to see some of the quotes from him at the time, as I think it was along the lines of, it doesn't matter what colour he is, he is a fantastic footballer, and this is what I am judging him on. Funny how these things never get mentioned.

 

[wolfie]

Cant believe i am saying this but I am sort of feeling sorry for LFC fans at the moment. They are getting battered from all angles. A season to forget for sure and Kenny should resign and keep a little dignity as a Liverpool hero. Dont think fans would want to see their club legend sacked.

Still think he is a knob though!!!

 

[Liverbirdie]

Cant believe i am saying this but I am sort of feeling sorry for LFC fans at the moment. They are getting battered from all angles. A season to forget for sure and Kenny should resign and keep a little dignity as a Liverpool hero. Dont think fans would want to see their club legend sacked.

Still think he is a knob though!!!

Hello Wolfie, how are you me old mucka!!

PS You shouldn't call anyone a knob........that way madness lies.

 

[wolfie]

Hello Wolfie, how are you me old mucka!!

PS You shouldn't call anyone a knob........that way madness lies.

I had to add the Knob comment incase people start to think iv gone soft and like Liverpool and Kenny. All is fair in love and war!!

 

[Liverbirdie]

I had to add the Knob comment incase people start to think iv gone soft and like Liverpool and Kenny. All is fair in love and war!!

And rightly so, dont mind anyone calling him a knob, just a problem with a rascist.

Are you getting scouse tendencies..........

 

[wolfie]

And rightly so, dont mind anyone calling him a knob, just a problem with a rascist.

Are you getting scouse tendencies..........

Scouse tendencies......not even close!!!
Everybody has their own opinions but some peoples opinion just sucks. I think they say things before they actually think about it.

 

[freddielong]

Yes kenny isn't a racist some of his best friends are black

 

[bozza]

Quick question for the Liverpool fans, sorry if it's been asked earlier in the thread.

Would you have Benitez back for next season?

 

[jpenno]

Quick question for the Liverpool fans, sorry if it's been asked earlier in the thread.

Would you have Benitez back for next season?

Yes without a doubt, tactically superior to Kenny, but some of his transfer dealings are just as Bad. I would also have Torres back too