King Kenny ??

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Didn't see the game but from what I heard if the penalty had been given for handball (and subsequent red card) it may have been a different game. Certainly looked a penalty on SSN. I have to have doubts about Carroll at this level. He must be match fit by now and looks woefully short of pace talent and ideas whenever I've seen him recently. I don't know if Dalglesh has lost it per ce as every club has their slumps but I don't think he has a side or a Plan B to make a serious challenge for silverware on aregular basis
 

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personally I think Kenny must take a lot of the blame, he mixes the starting 11 up fairly regular but we still don't know how to score! Yes we can play some lovely stuff but there is no end product.

If it was me I would play Kuyt up front with Suarez every game, Bellamy and Downing wide then have Adam and Gerrard central.

Carroll cannot play as a lone striker as he isnt a poacher and needs better service, something which we have struggled with for quite a few seasons tbh

Henderson wouldnt even get on the bench or Shelvey.

Its bloody frustrating though because on our day we can beat any team in the league but for some reason seem to come up short in the games we should win

It's going to need a massive overhaul and change of mentality before we even come close to challenging for League titles. We are still a great cup side as has been proven already this season and in past seasons in the champions league.

as per the last 20 odd years... there's always next season ;)
 

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I know a lot of Liverpool fans, and it has to be a 60%-40% split for him to go. He has spent a lot of cash and even with the cup win, they re not playing good football. This seems to be the most frustrating thing. They desperately miss Alonso.......
 

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Minus column:-

League form, dropping non-performing players, not signing (or loan) another striker in january, not signing (or loan) a right winger in january, playing henderson in right midfield, playing henderson at all, signing too many centre midfielders in one go.

Plus column:-

Winning our first trophy in 6 years, potentially winning a 2nd trophy this season, qualifying for Europe, getting rid of about 10-15 worthless,under-performing full time proffesionals off the books. Playing a lot more football than last year, but still not perfect.

Overall, going through a really sticky patch, but I'm keeping the faith for now.The worse thing is to have more team upheaval now. The sky generation demands instant success and no-one is going to go from 7-8th to top 1-2 without either 4-500 mill on transfers within 2-4 seasons a la Chelsea and city, or steady improvement over 2-4 seasons with 80% of buys being right (and still spending 150-200 million) a la spurs, and even then with ups and downs.

Look at Spurs early in the season, tonked by the 2 manc sides, Arsenal were woeful in the first 2-3 months. It's our turn now. Sky sports/radio phone ins must have a victim every week, and every new age fan buys into all their get rid of the manager/sack the board weekly drivel.
 

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I have to get my fa cup tickets tomorrow and am drearding the Semi, on current form we dont stand a chance

Kenny is tactically clueless, need consistent team selection and get rid of carroll and henderson

Bring back RAFA
 

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I have to get my fa cup tickets tomorrow and am drearding the Semi, on current form we dont stand a chance

Kenny is tactically clueless, need consistent team selection and get rid of carroll and henderson

Bring back RAFA

Just had a text off a blue nose - Pepe Reina must be the only person in Liverpool who is trying to get rid of Wembley tickets and get grand national tickets instead. Made me laugh.
 

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My Missus is in France next week and had already changed her flight to Stansted on Saturday morning instead of Mancland so have to go !!
 

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Overall, going through a really sticky patch, but I'm keeping the faith for now.The worse thing is to have more team upheaval now. The sky generation demands instant success and no-one is going to go from 7-8th to top 1-2 without either 4-500 mill on transfers within 2-4 seasons a la Chelsea and city, or steady improvement over 2-4 seasons with 80% of buys being right (and still spending 150-200 million) a la spurs, and even then with ups and downs.

This is true, spurs under Redknapp have made consistent progress, last year imo they only missed out of champions league football not because they got worse but city got better, but they've bought good players on the cheap such as van der vaart, 8 million is a steal for that kind of quality or they've developed young players such as jake livermore and kyle walker (although he was bought of sheffield united i think) The difference with Liverpool is you've overpaid for fairly mediocre players, henderson may be worth 20 million in 3 or 4 years, but right now? no way. Its now been proved that Carroll simply cannot play in this side, when he gets the ball he looks clueless, and off it he's even worse. Downing has been poor, nothing like the quality he was producing at Aston Villa, Suarez was your marquee signing last year and his movement and creating opportunites is good but he's only actually scored 7 league goals this season, for someone meant to be leading the attack its not very impressive, so whilst I think the attitude that Liverpool have of recognising its not a short term project, they need to work out a different transfer market strategy as the one they have at the moment is not sustainable... personally I think the carling cup and the prospect of the FA Cup is the only thing keeping Kenny employed at the moment
 

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I'm no Liverpool fan, and I have to admit to having a quiet chuckle every know and then over King Kenny

Should be ***king Kenny imo.

Generally he can only lead a team to success by buying the best team/squad in the country. He's never been able to coach players to success, or build a team from the kids.

Tactically he's naive at best.

And he bottles it as soon as the going gets tough.

This year he's proven that his morals are piss poor, and he's no longer worthy of the adoration of the Liverpool fans.

But apart from that, he's doing great.

 

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Imo Kenny has to go,otherwise Liverpool will never be a threat for the title.
They are leap years away from challenging.
They can beat the top teams on there day,but the next game they can lose to
a bottom four club.
Liverpool imo will have to get rid of everyone,apart from Gerrard,Reina and Suarez.
All the others are not of Liverpool quality,however personally Bellamy is a good player.
This will in this current climate,with clubs still able to find big investers,will cost 200 million plus.
Then it will take time to blend.
Can the Liverpool board,and supporters really be happy with a Carling cup,an FA cup semi,but
be over 30 points away from a title?
 

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Did not think I would be saying this, and apart form a measly £15m. Torres 1 Carroll 0. Did my blues get the better end of the bargin. Has Carroll been reading the Drogba book on how to CHEAT.
 

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And he bottles it as soon as the going gets tough.

This year he's proven that his morals are piss poor, and he's no longer worthy of the adoration of the Liverpool fans.

Can the Liverpool board,and supporters really be happy with a Carling cup,an FA cup semi,but
be over 30 points away from a title?
Pretty much sums up my opinion, The way he handled the Saurez episodes were unbelievable. I now turn over when he's getting interviewed, cringeworthy.
 

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After Reina was red carded - Kenny came on to discuss who was going in goal as no subs left, Gerrard told him to get off the pitch as the ref had not given him permission and Atkinson would have no hesitation in sending Kenny off too!!
 
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