KeLvin MacKenzie

[Hacker Khan]

Anywhey, bak to Kevin Mckenzey, he's just a reactionary old fool who thinks they have their moment in the sun now the country seems to have lurched to the right and being slightly racist and intolerant is now more acceptable.

 

[IanM]

Not sure the country has lurched anywhere to be honest... and Kelvin is a nasty little oik for sure, but I am amazed how informed people are about the birthplaces of footballers' grandparents.....

 

[Deleted member 16999]

but I am amazed how informed people are about the birthplaces of footballers' grandparents.....

Surely that's part of being a journalist and doing the correct research before publishing, Googleing "Ross Barkley" and he'd of found the information out in less than 1 minute.
That's also only 1 part of the issue with his article, the rest is insulting all the males in the City.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Kelvin is indeed a deeply unpleasant man and the piece he wrote about Ross Barkley was a fine example of his talents. However I don't believe the gorilla comment had any racist undertones to it. The point he made was unkind and unnecessary but not racist. The rest of the piece...............Hopefully this will be the end of his time and he will disappear off onto some obscure late night radio phone in that few people listen to.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Really...Godwins Law for Sun journalists - NEVER talk about scousers in a critically negative or sarcastic way. It just isn't worth it.

Would you expand on this?

I think you maybe need to elaborate on what you are getting at with that statement

We're waiting?

Swigsitlikehogan - Are you going to elaborate on this or just another random statement without foundation

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Swigsitlikehogan - Are you going to elaborate on this or just another random statement without foundation

Calm yourself Homer, you know it isn't nice being part of a forum witchhunt!

If I can try and decipher SILH's comment, i imagine it's referring to the historically horrendous way that the S*n has treated Liverpool, such that if they pass a comment about a generic location that would be considered a "rubbish joke", passing the same about Liverpool would be seen as a bigger slur, because of what they've done before.
Even if they're trying to be funny (n/a in this case I don't think), then Liverpudlians are well within their right to take offence, because of the history.

SILH, feel free to correct me if i've misunderstood! I don't think SILH meant anything against Liverpool.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Calm yourself Homer, you know it isn't nice being part of a forum witchhunt!

If I can try and decipher SILH's comment, i imagine it's referring to the historically horrendous way that the S*n has treated Liverpool, such that if they pass a comment about a generic location that would be considered a "rubbish joke", passing the same about Liverpool would be seen as a bigger slur, because of what they've done before.
Even if they're trying to be funny (n/a in this case I don't think), then Liverpudlians are well within their right to take offence, because of the history.

SILH, feel free to correct me if i've misunderstood! I don't think SILH meant anything against Liverpool.

What witchhunt? 3 people have asked him to clarify his comment.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I believe that Godwin's Law is a theory that the more an online discussion about someone grows the more likely they or someone/something else are to be compared to Hitler

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

What witchhunt? 3 people have asked him to clarify his comment.

Apols, witchhunt was the wrong word. Just referring to jumping on the bandwagon. I can understand people from L'pool asking for clarification, not sure what Homer was adding.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Apols, witchhunt was the wrong word. Just referring to jumping on the bandwagon. I can understand people from L'pool asking for clarification, not sure what Homer was adding.

:thup:

 

[User62651]

Swigsitlikehogan - Are you going to elaborate on this or just another random statement without foundation

We're all guilty of typos but I quite liked that one! Suggesting the great man was a boozer indeed.. tssk

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Apols, witchhunt was the wrong word. Just referring to jumping on the bandwagon. I can understand people from L'pool asking for clarification, not sure what Homer was adding.

Merely asking for some clarification. I read the original comment and was at a loss to what it meant (as were others). Nothing more than that and if anybody wants to jump on their own bandwagon and suggest a witch hunt or anything else then that's entirely up to them. For someone so vocal on other threads (article 50, Brexit etc) I just found it a little strange that with several prompts there was no further explanation. To be honest I won't lose sleep over it if there isn't an answer

 

[Three]

Merely asking for some clarification. I read the original comment and was at a loss to what it meant (as were others).

What absolute rubbish!
Everyone knows exactly what the comment was alluding to, you and the others were trying to get him to clarify in order to start a row.

 

[The Evertonian]

What absolute rubbish!
Everyone knows exactly what the comment was alluding to, you and the others were trying to get him to clarify in order to start a row.

Would you care to clarify what he meant....if only for the sake of all the knuckle-dragging scousers in here?
Do you not think the absolute melt who made the comment was not guilty of trying to start a row to begin with?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Come on SILH you can't get them all excited like this & then not allow them to be overly offended.

 

[The Evertonian]

Come on SILH you can't get them all excited like this & then not allow them to be overly offended.

He couldn't offend me if he tried....he's just another no mark bigot on another Internet forum. The world is full of them.

 

[Papas1982]

Would you care to clarify what he meant....if only for the sake of all the knuckle-dragging scousers in here?
Do you not think the absolute melt who made the comment was not guilty of trying to start a row to begin with?

***Disclaimer***

Please read it all before attempting to run me off the forum.

The only way i can possibly try and spin it to be remotely less offensive than it appears.

Is that he was using Godwins law as an example as to how most conversations about the Sun would go when it involves Liverpudlians discussing it.
If for example the article had been slagging off someone different, say someone from southampton. When the discussion ensued isn't it slightly plausible that a comment along the lines off "its what you'd expect from a rag paper like that" may well have been written.

For the record, I am only offering an opinion on what was said. NOT agreeing with the justification.

Even if it is plausible, it would be totally warranted due to the harm that the paper caused the city and people of Liverpool and I think all would totally react the same if they'd suffered the same.

Imo, the initial comment on here was to insight a reaction and to quote Carragher, it was the actions of a coward.

 

[The Evertonian]

***Disclaimer***

Please read it all before attempting to run me off the forum.

The only way i can possibly try and spin it to be remotely less offensive than it appears.

Is that he was using Godwins law as an example as to how most conversations about the Sun would go when it involves Liverpudlians discussing it.
If for example the article had been slagging off someone different, say someone from southampton. When the discussion ensued isn't it slightly plausible that a comment along the lines off "its what you'd expect from a rag paper like that" may well have been written.

For the record, I am only offering an opinion on what was said. NOT agreeing with the justification.

Even if it is plausible, it would be totally warranted due to the harm that the paper caused the city and people of Liverpool and I think all would totally react the same if they'd suffered the same.

Imo, the initial comment on here was to insight a reaction and to quote Carragher, it was the actions of a coward.

That's fair enough Papas...I still don't understand how Three can accuse others of trying to start a row with said coward after said coward made the initial post, confusing.

 

[Papas1982]

That's fair enough Papas...I still don't understand how Three can accuse others of trying to start a row with said coward after said coward made the initial post, confusing.

I agree, one person has attempted to create trouble and a few others seem to being stirring with no actual insight.

 

[Foxholer]

I believe that Godwin's Law is a theory that the more an online discussion about someone grows the more likely they or someone/something else are to be compared to Hitler

That is indeed the case! I can't see how it's relevant to Kelvin McKenzie, who (imo) is, and has always been, one of the 'all-time great' nasty, odious twerps! His attitude/approach is just as bad, or worse, as many of those he criticises - except from the opposite 'wing' - and, unlike most of his victims, he is (or has been) in a far better position to spout his (often vile) views than those he has attacked!

Finally gone too far, even for the Sun!

Perhaps SILH should have referred to a 'How to unite (or upset) all Liverpudlians' Law - something that seems to have been proven once again!