Just checking..

[SonicBoom]

During a lesson recently I said to the pro that I never ever get any backspin on the ball. He said "well you won't, you hit the ball with a draw".
So then it hit me, it you hit with a draw or fade you won't get backspin due to the spin right?
I have seen Rory for example zip one back to the hole, and he usually draws the ball so I guess he changes his swing and strike to do this when needed right?
Nice to have that kind of flexibility in your game, I have neough to deal with with one swing !

 

[Aztecs27]

I believe that what he has told you is utter rubbish. But someone more qualified will be able to tell you for certain.

 

[bladeplayer]

Again no expert but surely draws & fades are created by imparting side spin on the ball .. so it b hard to get a ball that is spinning sideways to spin back .. just my thought tho not an official answer

 

[SonicBoom]

To be honest I had never thought about it before but surely it makes sense. To draw or fade the clubface is square at impact but the swing path imparts side spin one way or the other. Back spin requires the ball to er, spin backwards in the air so I guess he is right. they are mutually exclusive.
so I guess players like Rory change depending on what shot they want to hit.

 

[USER1999]

If you hit a golf ball, it will have spin imparted on it.

If you hit it perfectly straight, this will be back spin. If the axis of rotation is tilted, then it will draw, or fade according to the tilt. It is still back spin, just the axis is tilted relative to the horizontal. this will cause it to move sideways as it travels throught the air.

When it lands, it will spin back, in the direction that the axis was tilted, ie: not neccessarily back towards you.

If it doesn't spin on landing, you are playing with a rock, or not hitting it hard enough, or you are playing on concrete.

 

[SonicBoom]

Yeah that makes sense.
Although very few high handicappers get the ball to spin back and I would say that is up to a 15 or 16.
I don't think it is hitting it hard, I think that higher handicappers probably don't hit down steeply enough.
They are worried about hitting the ground so prefer not to take a divot. Thereofore not enough spin to move the ball backwards.

 

[Doh]

Agree with Murph i think he got it spot on.
I used to play with a +2 player he would call the type of spin he could put on the ball draw spin/cut spin.

 

[Mattyboy]

Yeah that makes sense.
Although very few high handicappers get the ball to spin back and I would say that is up to a 15 or 16.
I don't think it is hitting it hard, I think that higher handicappers probably don't hit down steeply enough.
They are worried about hitting the ground so prefer not to take a divot. Thereofore not enough spin to move the ball backwards.

Theres a number of reasons but I would think the most common are that the grooves in a higher handicappers club are either caked with dirt or not very sharp. Also, try spinning back a distance ball!

Also, tour players generally play on faster greens. therefore, back spin of about 1 foot on our greens may be 5 foot on theirs. They also change their wedges every month or there abouts. The fairways they play off are cut much tighter as well.

The fact that draw/fade spin is on a ball has little effect and has been summed up well previously IMO.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Yeah that makes sense.
Although very few high handicappers get the ball to spin back and I would say that is up to a 15 or 16.
I don't think it is hitting it hard, I think that higher handicappers probably don't hit down steeply enough.
They are worried about hitting the ground so prefer not to take a divot. Thereofore not enough spin to move the ball backwards.

It's got naff all to do with being a high handicapper, I very rarely get backspin and I suspect that has a lot to do with the fact that I don't hit it hard enough or well enough. I hit it on a good trajectory, straight and usually pretty accurately but it still doesn't spin back.

 

[Imurg]

And anyway....
Most Amateurs leave the ball short of the hole so why do you want backspin..?

 

[Iaing]

Every shot that gets up in the air has some backspin on it so I'd say your pro's talking nonsense.