John Bercow - right or wrong?

[Sweep]

You might not see any correlation - I suggest that you are not looking hard enough as you do not want there to be any correlation.

I think you are looking too hard because I think you are desperate to tarnish leavers with just another brush, so we can add Trump lovers to the accusations of racist, thick, little englanders.....
Sorry to disappoint.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It is pretty obvious to me that the HoC and the HoL is no longer 'fit for purpose' in a modern UK.
We desperately need an English [or English regional] parliament.

The devolved Country, Principality and Provence clearly do not not supportive the Tory party whilst England seems to be embracing it and it's further right wing UKIP. party.
Density of population will ensure that there will be little change for the next 25 years.

 

[IanM]

For a thread ending, highly informed take on this, read what the Speaker of the House of Lords had to say....

 

[Foxholer]

For a thread ending, highly informed take on this, read what the Speaker of the House of Lords had to say....

Link?

 

[drdel]

Nobody is stopping him from visiting the UK and speaking freely, provided he does not infringe our laws.

He is just a totally unsuitable person to address the HoC

Unsuitablebe as a person is subjective. However this a State invitation and he would be here representing the USA, insult the President of a country and, by invitation, you insults its citizens.

 

[Fish]

Well it didn't last long until it turned into another forum boxing match between the same posters - it's just another extension of the Article 50 thread now

and this is where it started below and is now effectively hijacked, no doubt another 30+ posts per day from him will saturate this thread also putting other people off posting!

Wondering how many leave voters are agreeing with Bercow...

 

[Foxholer]

It is pretty obvious to me that the HoC and the HoL is no longer 'fit for purpose' in a modern UK.
We desperately need an English [or English regional] parliament.

The devolved Country, Principality and Provence clearly do not not supportive the Tory party whilst England seems to be embracing it and it's further right wing UKIP. party.
Density of population will ensure that there will be little change for the next 25 years.

That may be your view, but I'd bet it's not shared by the majority of the UK!

 

[Sweep]

It is pretty obvious to me that the HoC and the HoL is no longer 'fit for purpose' in a modern UK.
We desperately need an English [or English regional] parliament.

The devolved Country, Principality and Provence clearly do not not supportive the Tory party whilst England seems to be embracing it and it's further right wing UKIP. party.
Density of population will ensure that there will be little change for the next 25 years.

To be fair, as an SNP supporter, you would say that.
As a member of the United Kingdom electorate, your vote counts the same as anyones, be they in England,Wales or Scotland. The matter of whether the Scottish people should remain as part of that electorate has been recently settled. Just because you and your neighbours voted against the government does not mean the HoC and HoL is not fit for purpose. It just means that the majority of the people across the UK voted for the party that as a result forms the UK government.
The irony in regard to your post is that if Labour got their act together, fewer people would vote Tory and UKIP, but fewer people would also vote SNP.

 

[IanM]

Link?

Lots of sources, take your pick .. Google "Speaker of house of lords on Bercow"

 

[Sweep]

Well it didn't last long until it turned into another forum boxing match between the same posters - it's just another extension of the Article 50 thread now

Pot: "Meet the kettle over there. His name is Black"

 

[Sweep]

Rock on to your heart's content. I'm simply correcting your misinterpretation of my (on-topic!) post(s!!)! It does, indeed, get pretty boring having to do so!

I repeat... Kindly refrain from (mis)interpreting my posts! They are actually worded quite carefully!

I know in your little world everything revolves around you. However, you are fond of reminding me how your English skills are superior to mine, so I suggest you put them to good use. Read the title of the thread. It isn't " Foxholer's Posts. Are they misinterpreted?"
So save yourself and the rest of us from boredom and grow up.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Why have so many of the Brexit supporting posters on here become even more angrier and abusive?
Really lowering the tone of debate on here.
Please, if you cannot debate with some restraint just sod off somewhere else.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Why have so many of the Brexit supporting posters on here become even more angrier and abusive?
Really lowering the tone of debate on here.
Please, if you cannot debate with some restraint just sod off somewhere else.

I agree!

But would also suggest that one of the keenest of Remainers (SILH) should also follow that advice. His recent posts on this and other threads have become increasingly personal and provocative.

As suggested it would be best if the thread was now closed.

 

[FairwayDodger]

It is pretty obvious to me that the HoC and the HoL is no longer 'fit for purpose' in a modern UK.
We desperately need an English [or English regional] parliament.

The devolved Country, Principality and Provence clearly do not not supportive the Tory party whilst England seems to be embracing it and it's further right wing UKIP. party.
Density of population will ensure that there will be little change for the next 25 years.

I think this is very true.

The devolution around the UK is very imbalanced. I think a better approach would be to have a number of English regional assemblies and for all the devolved assemblies to have identical powers, as far as the NI peace process will allow.

Either that or just ditch the Scottish, Welsh and NI parliaments altogether, which would also get my vote....

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I agree!

But would also suggest that one of the keenest of Remainers (SILH) should also follow that advice. His recent posts on this and other threads have become increasingly personal and provocative.

As suggested it would be best if the thread was now closed.

This thread is fine.......the A50 is out of control and would probably be best closed.

 

[SocketRocket]

Why have so many of the Brexit supporting posters on here become even more angrier and abusive?
Really lowering the tone of debate on here.
Please, if you cannot debate with some restraint just sod off somewhere else.

Didnt know you were a Brexit supporter. Well! you live and learn.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

This thread is fine.......the A50 is out of control and would probably be best closed.

Sorry, you are right I was confusing the two.

However, this one needs to be carefully monitored as there are already signs of "cross-fertilisation".

 

[Deleted member 15344]

and this is where it started below and is now effectively hijacked, no doubt another 30+ posts per day from him will saturate this thread also putting other people off posting!

You're spot on - that was the bait and the obvious candidates couldn't resist taking it

 

[Sweep]

You're spot on - that was the bait and the obvious candidates couldn't resist taking it

Have you been arguing with yourself again?

 

[SocketRocket]

Have you been arguing with yourself again?

:thup: