January Transfer 'Window'..

[Blue in Munich]

I'd place Eliaquim Mangala, Edinson Cavani, Stevan Jovetic and even Wayne Rooney as stronger targets before Balotelli. Lukaku was a huge error on Jose's part, he should have let Ba go instead, but when he (Lukaku) returns, he'll be a mini Drogba, or better!

I think he would have stayed if Arsenal hadn't pulled out of the Ba deal; we had 4 strikers, we needed to offload 1 and the only offer we had was for Lukaku. May yet work out for the best as he will have the opportunity to prove himself at Everton that he never would have had with us this year.

 

[fundy]

I think he would have stayed if Arsenal hadn't pulled out of the Ba deal; we had 4 strikers, we needed to offload 1 and the only offer we had was for Lukaku. May yet work out for the best as he will have the opportunity to prove himself at Everton that he never would have had with us this year.

Mourinho not Arsenal pulled the plug on that deal, totally down to Mourinho that Ba not Lukaku at Chelsea this yr. Basically was typical Mourinho playing games, dragged it out until the end when he never had any intention of allowing Ba to go to a rival (not sure why Arsenal thought otherwise really). He claimed it was because the signing of Ozil made Arsenal title contenders

 

[JCW]

Completely and conveniently overlooking the fact that is the player that signs for the club. If the player doesn't want to go then he doesn't have to sign.

Clubs don't sign players simply to stop other clubs buying them, the squad limit takes care of that. They do sign young talent who they think will make the grade in the future, then loan them out to other clubs so that they get the playing time they need to develop, rather than have them vegetating in the reserves.

If you was a top player and A club come in for you at £100 k a week and chelski and man c come in with £200 k you going to go to the 1ook club , as for squads , u can be at a club and not be in the 25 man squad but then the other club has not got you either , my point is if you are a business would you buy goods then stick it in the store room , no you would not , but if you already got plenty then you make sure the guy down the road cant get any because your money no object Russian/arab mate has just given you the money to kill off your competition ...........that's what they do , the banks do it just like the supermarkets only in a different way , they buy big and sell cheap so the corner shop is not able to compete and the banks fix rates ..........that's life

 

[JCW]

Mourinho not Arsenal pulled the plug on that deal, totally down to Mourinho that Ba not Lukaku at Chelsea this yr. Basically was typical Mourinho playing games, dragged it out until the end when he never had any intention of allowing Ba to go to a rival (not sure why Arsenal thought otherwise really). He claimed it was because the signing of Ozil made Arsenal title contenders

correct , coz the Russian could pay ba`s wages even if he became the club waiter , but arsenal were not having him and it wen right down to the last min that arsenal had no time to get anyone else , games within games

 

[Blue in Munich]

If you was a top player and A club come in for you at £100 k a week and chelski and man c come in with £200 k you going to go to the 1ook club , as for squads , u can be at a club and not be in the 25 man squad but then the other club has not got you either , my point is if you are a business would you buy goods then stick it in the store room , no you would not , but if you already got plenty then you make sure the guy down the road cant get any because your money no object Russian/arab mate has just given you the money to kill off your competition ...........that's what they do , the banks do it just like the supermarkets only in a different way , they buy big and sell cheap so the corner shop is not able to compete and the banks fix rates ..........that's life

Doesn't alter the fact that the player is the final arbiter of where he goes. You blame the clubs yet it is the player that signs on the dotted line.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Mourinho not Arsenal pulled the plug on that deal, totally down to Mourinho that Ba not Lukaku at Chelsea this yr. Basically was typical Mourinho playing games, dragged it out until the end when he never had any intention of allowing Ba to go to a rival (not sure why Arsenal thought otherwise really). He claimed it was because the signing of Ozil made Arsenal title contenders

The original version of events was that Chelsea wanted £3 million, Arsenal were only prepared to pay £1.5 so that was why it collapsed, although I wouldn't put the other version of events past Mourinho. As for not being prepared to loan a player to a rival, how does that sit with the Victor Moses loan to Liverpool?

 

[MadAdey]

For most clubs, running at profits and losses do not matter IMO. It is big business nowadays and like all big businesses they run at losses sometimes. The only time it becomes a problem is when that clubs assets do not outweigh that loss. Look at the top teams, any of those could make £50M this month just by off loading a couple of players.

The big problem I see is the lower end clubs because they do not have the assets in the way of players if they needed a large amount of cash to balance the books. If they want to move up the league they need to spend money, but unless they get a sugar daddy like Man City did then they will have to borrow which means running at a loss. Dangerous game to play though, look at Leeds.

 

[fundy]

The original version of events was that Chelsea wanted £3 million, Arsenal were only prepared to pay £1.5 so that was why it collapsed, although I wouldn't put the other version of events past Mourinho. As for not being prepared to loan a player to a rival, how does that sit with the Victor Moses loan to Liverpool?

Mourinho/Chelsea admitted it was them that pulled the plug a few days later, fee had been agreed for 12 mths loan at 2m

 

[Pin-seeker]

Jose pulled the plug on the Ba deal after Arsenal signed Ozil as he said it made them title contenders.

 

[Crazyface]

Completely agree.... Chelsea and City are two huge culprits in making a mockery of how much they can offer players in terms of wages, just to be bailed out by their money men. Here's a notion..... Only clubs that turn a profit should be allowed to purchase new players..... Discuss.....

Both these teams are just doing what is allowed. The whole thing is based around money now and is deadly dull. Only four teams in with a shout of winning the title at the beginning of any given season. It's all about getting into Europe anyway. If fans don't like what Chelsea and City are doing it's their own fault for alllowing it to happen. They go and watch and pay for Sky. I've given up on it all, England included, and am only kept in touch as my lad and footie daft grandson are Liverpool fans and he keeps me informed of thier latest efforts. I actually have to offer up a wry smile as Chelsea were a team I supported when very young but switched to City at about the age of 8. Now I don't care about it all, they both are the richest teams in the league. Also I'm enjoying Utd fans whining on that City are ruining it all now that they are sh one t.

 

[One Planer]

I'd place Eliaquim Mangala, Edinson Cavani, Stevan Jovetic and even Wayne Rooney as stronger targets before Balotelli. Lukaku was a huge error on Jose's part, he should have let Ba go instead, but when he (Lukaku) returns, he'll be a mini Drogba, or better!

"If" he comes back.

 

[chrisd]

but when he (Lukaku) returns, he'll be a mini Drogba, or better!

Not from what I saw when he played at our place Fish! He looked like the miniest Drogba you could imagine!

 

[Paperboy]

I'm just hoping Southampton sign a decent keeper, even on loan till Boruc is back will do.

Think you missed a trick when Jack Butland went to stoke last year. Up and coming goalkeeeper, some off my Saints fans scoffed at the idea. Que sera as they say.

 

[Iain.faulkner]

I'm pretty happy with how City are looking at the moment, hope we don't go out and spend stupid money on players we don't need.

There's a few players I'd like to see shipped out, Lescott & Garcia for example, with a new centre back purchased if Lescott were to go. If we got rid of Garcia though, I'd love us to bring in Nigel De Jong again, who was infinitely better than Garcia when he was with us....but I doubt this will happen.

 

[cookelad]

Obviously we need a decent out-and-out striker, I just hope we don't sign Berbasloth as has been rumoured this morning, might as well save the £2m and extend Bendtner's contract!

 

[Papas1982]

I'm just hoping Southampton sign a decent keeper, even on loan till Boruc is back will do.

Heard Caeser on loan, would love that idea!

 

[Papas1982]

What a ridiculous statement, do businesses not run and make losses year after year, BUT, slowly, reduce those losses over a long term plan because they may make nett profits, or break even at times or, even increase the losses as they purchase more assets during that plan, and, as long as all those assets are greater than their losses, they are not running insolvent!

Football is a business, annual figures to a large degree, especially 50m mean squat in the grand scale of things, take a look at their balance sheet, that's all that matters.

The sale of Mata & Essien this month could wipe that 50m straight out.

They lost £50m up yo June, how much did they spend in autumn??

and they'll get nothing for Essen. Maybe £25m for Mata. Clearly a quality player, but they will take a lower offer or he'll rot in reserves.......

 

[Liverbirdie]

and this helps clubs who don't have the money to buy them but can support their wages, so its a win win scenario for all concerned.

Except the other teams in Belgium. Dont Chelsea have six players at one Belgian club?

Hardly fair on the rest of the Belgian league. I know Man U used to (or still do) have a tie up with Royal Antwerp, but there are failings in the loan market as far as I'm concerned when it gets to this level. What is to stop Chelsea or City buying 5 world class strikers and loaning them out to all but the top end of their rivals, who can play and score against all of their other rivals, but not themselves. Nothing, I presume. I think Chelsea have been surprised that Liverpool have nearly matched them up to now, despite Moses's worse efforts.

Imagine if they had loaned Lukaku to Liverpool and Moses to Everton. If Liverpool were 8 points clear of Chelsea by now, could they just as easy pull the plug on the deal, half way through the season.

 

[bladeplayer]

As far as i know our Lukaku deal is for the season mate so they cant have him back even if they wanted him, not sure if pool would have set it up the same ... think pool have surprised quiet a few to be honest .

bout 2 players from having BIG chance of winning it id say

 

[Liverbirdie]

As far as i know our Lukaku deal is for the season mate so they cant have him back even if they wanted him, not sure if pool would have set it up the same ... think pool have surprised quiet a few to be honest .

bout 2 players from having BIG chance of winning it id say

Pele and Maradona are both retired now, though.