It's that cynic again

and you have answered your own question, you do not have to get in your car to exercise. You do not have to call in for a coffee On the way.
And you do not not have to see 1,000 deaths a day to be “set up for life” and be in the category of 1,000 deaths a day to be judgemental.


I'll bite, how does the risk increase by performing the same thing with the same people in a nicer are, that is within your local area by car?
 
I'll bite, how does the risk increase by performing the same thing with the same people in a nicer are, that is within your local area by car?

I went two places in my car locally yesterday, had to go see my physio as my back was playing up, saves a trip to overwhelm the Nhs if it proper goes one day

Went by car

On way back did a click and collect at Dunelm for a mattress topper to help my back as we having to sleep in old master room until twins are old enough for wife to let us back in the loft room

You tell them via your phone your there and they bring your item to your car leave it outside the door and they go

Only contact with someone was with the physio who had gloves , apron and we both wore masks

I'm sure someone will tell me how I could have done it better
 
Surely you aren’t lecturing people about actions in regards what they should and shouldn’t do ?

You “didn’t” have to fly to Mexico when a pandemic was starting but you deflected everything by saying it was within the rules at the time - just like people driving somewhere for exercise is within the rules

People in glass houses etc etc

Some people claimed it was safer to fly to a place with lower cases than their local area for a holiday to get away

Nothing like risking infecting that area

Long as they have a nice bit of sun
 
The point I was trying to make (and missed evidently) was that this trip by the ladies didn't need to take place. If the authorities want a lockdown that will work....they need to get serious and lockdown things at least as well as the first time. Leaving the parks/parking areas open is inviting people to go to them. There are way too many people just breaking the rules because they are tired of things like they are. This isn't just a few people as some people think.....it's probably half or close enough. This latest lockdown will slow things down at best and damaging/destroying businesses with the hope that the vaccines will save things eventually.
One reason golf clubs are deemed risky is that too many of us gathering in the same location at or around the same time, in car parks, clubhouse, first tee. Local to us the car parks of popular places for walking are jammed full, with everyone trying and largely failing to keep properly distanced, and where there is a cafe that is like flies to the honeypot.

Though see the Aesop fable The Flies and the Honeypot ‘oh foolish creatures that we are, for the sake of a little pleasure we have destroyed ourselves’
 
Most of the people looking for a harder lockdown either have safe public sector jobs or are retired. Both arguments have an ‘I’m alright jack element’ but only one side is pointing the finger
I would love a hard full lockdown, with only those needed medically allowed to work. There's far to many "essential workers". For the record, I'm now self employed after being made redundant last year and called an essential worker. I will get nothing if I can't work, but this virus has to be tackled hard and fast. There's too many excuses allowing people to carrying on also as normal.
 
I would love a hard full lockdown, with only those needed midcally allowed to work. There's far to many "essential workers". For the record, I'm now self employed after being made redundant last year. I will get nothing if I can't work, but this viruxs has to be tackled hard and fast. There's too many excuses allowing people to carrying on also as normal.

You are correct there are too many essienal workers and it's employers taking the Mick that are causing the most issues

Friend of mines company supplies parts to gas and water board so yes the warehouse and delivery team are "essienal" however the admin team are not and can work from home (they did in lockdown one) yet have been refused
 
I'll bite, how does the risk increase by performing the same thing with the same people in a nicer are, that is within your local area by car?
Who said the risk increases?
The message at the moment is dont go out.
Its that simple.
Its not dont get in your car, call for a coffee and go for a walk.
 
I would love a hard full lockdown, with only those needed medically allowed to work. There's far to many "essential workers". For the record, I'm now self employed after being made redundant last year and called an essential worker. I will get nothing if I can't work, but this virus has to be tackled hard and fast. There's too many excuses allowing people to carrying on also as normal.
That’s your call. I need to work. I’m not sure what I do is essential and I can in the main work from home, but I do need to visit sites once a week.
 
Who said the risk increases?
The message at the moment is dont go out.
Its that simple.
Its not dont get in your car, call for a coffee and go for a walk.

Sorry can you not read?

Exercising
You should minimise time spent outside your home, but you can leave your home to exercise. This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.

You can exercise in a public outdoor place:

by yourself
with the people you live with
with your support bubble (if you are legally permitted to form one)
in a childcare bubble where providing childcare
or, when on your own, with 1 person from another household

From the govs Own page

It's a valid reason to leave the house
 
Who said the risk increases?
The message at the moment is dont go out.
Its that simple.
Its not dont get in your car, call for a coffee and go for a walk.
Sorry Tash, you drove your wife for a covid test when you were positive, what if some drunk or drug driver had hit your car when you were out?
Risk is everywhere and hindsight is a wonderful thing!
 
Sorry Tash, you drove your wife for a covid test when you were positive, what if some drunk or drug driver had hit your car when you were out?
Risk is everywhere and hindsight is a wonderful thing!

Exactly it's all about reducing risk.

These ladies may have driven to reduce risk

Driving alone less risk than walking past people maybe

I click and collect all shopping I can to reduce risk

I could try for delivery even less risk but that could go to someone less able to leave home maybe with no car
 
How much do they spend on fake tan?? It’s January and they should look like Casper the ghost by now
That's entirely irrelevant but still made me spray my tea ?. I'm as pasty as you can get right now, not a good look, but anyone that orange at the moment is kidding themselves if they think people believe that look is better.
 
That's entirely irrelevant but still made me spray my tea ?. I'm as pasty as you can get right now, not a good look, but anyone that orange at the moment is kidding themselves if they think people believe that look is better.
They’re only 1 shade below a certain person who is on his way out of office in one of the old colonies....
 
Rules are fine but they need to be clear and concise.

If you should not drive for exercise then say so. If you can and distance is an issue then say how far is acceptable. If walking with a drink is against the rules then make it clear that when exercising food and drink is not to be purchased on route.

In my opinion it's not acceptable to allow the police to have personal discretion to decide whether someone's behaviour is illegal or not. This leads to inconsistencies and opens the Police to criticism.

I suspect the reason these things have not been clarified is a popularity issue.
 
Good interview with an ex police chief yesterday or Friday.

He said that one of the problems with the law as written is that 'local area' is not clearly defined legally and is therefore open to individual interpretation.

I know here I live if I wanted to walk on open common land or countryside park I would have to go outside of my village despite it being a rural because, in the main, we are surrounded by farms.

The term village is seriously open to personal interpretation. Do they mean a parish. Where I live the parish is made up of a series of 5 named areas which one would call neither a village or a hamlet.

What do the mean by Local Authority my Local Authority is South Somerset does that mean I am entitled to travel any where in the South Somerset Area
 
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