Is tiger finished?

TheDiablo said:
Paddy Power have just released some very interesting Tiger Woods odds

When will Tiger Woods Retire?2 015 - 9/12016 - 9/12017 - 9/12018 or after - 11/10

But the one that REALLY takes my attention is

Tiger Woods to never win another PGA tournament - 3/1

If you have spare cash and looking for a long term investment it looks great! Personally he will either win in next 2 years or retire, so either way I don't think you'll be waiting too long for a result.
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When do they pay out though? When he retires or do they hold on in case he makes a comeback..........could be waiting a long time for the return but agree decent enough odds.
 
I think people talking about their bad backs and the methods they employ to remedy/manage them are missing a point if comparing their situation to Tiger. Tiger has undergone spinal surgery - a highly invasive procedure involving cutting into or removal of the connective tissue and muscle surrounding the lower spine. His lower back would have been immobilized for 6-8 weeks following this procedure and no amount of stretching, massage, weight lifting or spinal manipulation will fully repair the subsequent tissue damage. Also he is attempting to swing the club at speeds which most of use would struggle to achieve.

His training regime is likely to involve strengthening those muscles around the trunk which weren’t involved in the surgical procedure and developing compensatory techniques to limit further damage/pain/injury.

I doubt whether trying to maximise his speed and trunk rotation is something which sits in harmony with his rehabilitation process. Something which I am sure is still a work in progress.

I think everyone can see he is not yet fit to swing the club in the way he wants or compete at the level he would expect. So I wonder why is he rushing back so soon and doing so much damage to his legacy and his mental strength? External pressures? Delusions of grandeur?

The other things which doesn't make sense is what he is saying in public and what we are seeing on the course seem to be at polar opposites. How can you hit 1000's of chips yet still be stuck between two patterns? How can you spend hours on the range and not experience similar back issues to those on the course? Again (according to Hank Haney's book) what Tiger says in public about his game and what is reality are often very different.
 
Swingalot said:
When do they pay out though? When he retires or do they hold on in case he makes a comeback..........could be waiting a long time for the return but agree decent enough odds.
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..as per the contractual wager. If he makes a comeback and comes out of retirement is irrelevant to the initial bet.
 
All I know is that my bet with RickG that Tiger will not win another major is looking more and more nailed on...............shame it was only a fiver! If only my glutes hadn't over-activated at the time when I was offered a 3-figure bet!!! :o
 
Im not anti Tiger in anyway & have gone on record here to say he will win again etc but im beginning to think he may well be finished ,

I think it may be a bit mental as much as physical ,

How many more false dawns wil there be ?

Tiger , get properly recovered man or call it a day , best to be remembered for the awsomeness than the awfulness
 
Interesting observation from Billy Horschel: “I think he’s doing a lot of good things in his game… I think he’s not that far off, considering where everyone else is thinking, but from my eye I feel like he’s really close to playing well. It’s just a matter of getting some reps and staying healthy so he can work on his game…. “Not to criticise you all, but I have a golfer’s eye, it’s what I do as my profession, and I have a better eye than what you all do.”
Read more at http://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/news/tour-news/tiger-woods-withdrawal-said-65741#1LteadLRlJKdqTSJ.99
 
seasidehacker said:
And I am sure your love will keep him going
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Nothing to do with my feelings. I just find posts like the one you made a bit ridiculous. Essentially you think he needs to retire because you have an irrational hatred of a guy you don't know and have never met. Plus I'd love to know how Karma comes into it?

For me it is about one of the greatest golfers of all time potentially having his career come to an abrupt and frankly sad end. This is all about golf for me and I personally think that it would be a huge shame if a wonderful career ends like this. Hopefully it won't come to that and we will see his prodigious talent a few more times.
 
Well said hawkeye. Would be a crying Shame to see a man like this leave the game right now. You want to see the best bow out on their terms, coming up the 18th all misty eyed.
 
garyinderry said:
Well said hawkeye. Would be a crying Shame to see a man like this leave the game right now. You want to see the best bow out on their terms, coming up the 18th all misty eyed.
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I agree.

I hope he gets some honest advice and fully recovers - unfortunately there's no end of 'experts' who, because of his wealth, will tell him what they think we wants to hear.
 
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TheAlbatross said:
I think people talking about their bad backs and the methods they employ to remedy/manage them are missing a point if comparing their situation to Tiger. Tiger has undergone spinal surgery - a highly invasive procedure involving cutting into or removal of the connective tissue and muscle surrounding the lower spine. His lower back would have been immobilized for 6-8 weeks following this procedure and no amount of stretching, massage, weight lifting or spinal manipulation will fully repair the subsequent tissue damage. Also he is attempting to swing the club at speeds which most of use would struggle to achieve.

His training regime is likely to involve strengthening those muscles around the trunk which weren’t involved in the surgical procedure and developing compensatory techniques to limit further damage/pain/injury.

I doubt whether trying to maximise his speed and trunk rotation is something which sits in harmony with his rehabilitation process. Something which I am sure is still a work in progress.

I think everyone can see he is not yet fit to swing the club in the way he wants or compete at the level he would expect. So I wonder why is he rushing back so soon and doing so much damage to his legacy and his mental strength? External pressures? Delusions of grandeur?

The other things which doesn't make sense is what he is saying in public and what we are seeing on the course seem to be at polar opposites. How can you hit 1000's of chips yet still be stuck between two patterns? How can you spend hours on the range and not experience similar back issues to those on the course? Again (according to Hank Haney's book) what Tiger says in public about his game and what is reality are often very different.
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I do core strengthening exercises for a bad back (ankylosing spondylitis), but I can't see that you need the huge Deltoids and shoulder muscles that Tiger has built up to play golf. Possibly more of a hindrance than a help for touch shots around the green! :mmm:
 
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I'm not anti Tiger. I think what he's done for the game of golf (forget the off course crap) has been great and he's tally of wins and majors has to be admired. However at the moment he's physically shot to pieces and the head is a mess and I agree totally with the Seve analogy. He has to get his body in shape and find a way of hitting it within limitations. If he can do that then he'll still be a competitive golfer. If not the body will give out and he'll have nothing else to do but quit.
 
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