Is tiger finished?

Sad to watch Tiger hacking it around again last night and disappointing his back troubles flared up again.

I am no swing expert but i do know about bio mechanics - his swing seems very quick and extremely erratic. One thing i question is whether he has the stability and strength in his core and trunk muscles to co-ordinate such a rapid movement. Following any spinal surgery the ability to control and co-ordinate (fire) these muscle groups will always be compromised when performing at such an intense level.

Now, i am in no doubt that Tiger will have received world class rehabilitation and physiotherapy input. I also believe no-one would have worked harder or have been more motivated to return to full fitness. But you can't compensate for the necessary surgical incision, removal of connective spinal tissue and subsequent spinal immobilization for 6-8 weeks which is associated with spinal surgery.

I would imagine those around him have strongly advised him to slow his swing down but having read Hank Haney's book i think that advice may have made him even more stubborn in his quest to regain his "speed". Maybe that is why he employed this fresh faced coach - perhaps Como is grateful for the opportunity to work with Tiger and not necessarily there to challenge his objectives.
 
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Brilliant!
 
If there is ever a time for a like button this is it :D

As for Tiger its sad to see the demise of someone that has done so much to raise the profile of the game but if its that bad then now is the time to quit before he keeps going further and further down the rankings.

My last memories of watching Seve play were seeing him hack it about all over the place, That's not how I wanted to remember one of the all time greats.
 
I don't even think he is that badly injured. Just playing very poorly with driving and chipping yips and walks off the course citing chronic pain as an excuse and in order to avoid another worst round ever.

What a stupid comment!!! he was level par standing on the 11th tee, pulled a horrendous lie in the rough and made a double. He then was middle of the green on the 12th when he retired.

Hardly going to be his worst round ever is it
 
All the gym work seems to have turned him into a muscle bound hulk! :mmm:

The thing that frustates me about everyone blaming his gym routine is that:

A) no one knows his routine but i am certain he would be doing a hell of a lot of stretching along with any heavy lifiting
B) No one ever complained about his workouts when he was winning tournaments left right and centre.
C) Rory has improved hugely as a golfer since he started working out, as has Lee Westwood. Woods changed the way golfer think.

Has anyone ever thought about the fact that his strong muscles have actually helped him play? in that he just has a bad back (as some people do) and the strong muscles have protected it for a number of years?
 
I can only assume that this WD was painful, previously when he's WD he has been hugely over par and well out of the tournament. Last night, even though his swing was terrible and he was missing fairways/greens all over, he was still scrambling and not far off it.
 
I can only assume that this WD was painful, previously when he's WD he has been hugely over par and well out of the tournament. Last night, even though his swing was terrible and he was missing fairways/greens all over, he was still scrambling and not far off it.

Agree with this
 
Paddy Power have just released some very interesting Tiger Woods odds

When will Tiger Woods Retire?2 015 - 9/12016 - 9/12017 - 9/12018 or after - 11/10

But the one that REALLY takes my attention is

Tiger Woods to never win another PGA tournament - 3/1

If you have spare cash and looking for a long term investment it looks great! Personally he will either win in next 2 years or retire, so either way I don't think you'll be waiting too long for a result.
 
I can only assume that this WD was painful, previously when he's WD he has been hugely over par and well out of the tournament. Last night, even though his swing was terrible and he was missing fairways/greens all over, he was still scrambling and not far off it.

Most likely he would rather be fit for Augusta rather than make the injury worse. I had some really bag knots in my back s few weeks ago. Couldn't even hit a simple chip shot. One trip to the chiropractor and I was swinging away like a manic the next day. Before getting it seen to I couldn't see myself ever making the golf the next day. Those guys work wonders.

At the same time I highly doubt tiger has allowed himself to build up many knots with the care he has at his disposal. It must be something worse.
 
He was hitting is all over the place - every bad tee shot had went to the back -
 
The only way he will be competing in 2016 is if he doesn't play anymore this year.
If he keeps trying to make comebacks this year and failing, I think he will call it a day after The Open.
 
I think he is finished trying to swing it the way he is at the moment. If he swung like his practice swings he could compete and probably stay healthy. At 80% he's still going to get it out there, certainly far enough to compete, but I suspect his ego won't allow 80%...............
 
The thing that frustates me about everyone blaming his gym routine is that:

A) no one knows his routine but i am certain he would be doing a hell of a lot of stretching along with any heavy lifiting
B) No one ever complained about his workouts when he was winning tournaments left right and centre.
C) Rory has improved hugely as a golfer since he started working out, as has Lee Westwood. Woods changed the way golfer think.

Has anyone ever thought about the fact that his strong muscles have actually helped him play? in that he just has a bad back (as some people do) and the strong muscles have protected it for a number of years?

I've had a bad back for years, which I keep in check with yoga and physiotherapy stretching exercises. I don't lift heavy weights, as allegedly Tiger has been doing to turn himself into a so-called 'Athlete'! He was a good golfer before trying to turn himself into Mr Universe! :rolleyes:
 
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