Is this why we sway?

[ScienceBoy]

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So I am watching a few videos on YT about golf swings.

This video is really interesting as it appears to encourage a "Sway". Is this the method that "blighted a generation" as put by some modern teachers?

He states that naturally in golf we "Reverse Pivot" to stay over the ball and in all other sports we load up the back leg. The cause of this difference, the stationary ball.

I like this video and this guy as he really shows how to use the body to hit golf shots, something I am trying to work towards, instead of the hands and arms.

I personally don't see this guys method as a sway, I see a sway as a fault which I have suffered from which results in the bottom of the swing plane moving backwards.

In an attempt to break free of the reverse pivot and improve it seems very easy to misinterpret these actions and "sway", causing no end of issues including fats, tops and thins (bottom of swing plane nowhere near ball).

Any thoughts?

 

[muttleee]

I think I tend to sway because I confuse it with shifting my weight. Concentrating on keeping my head behind the ball seems to help.

 

[CMAC]

Curtis said it's ok to sway

 

[Sweep]

I think an excessive sway can destroy a golf swing. An FC took me to one side a few weeks ago after our round and told me I should "lock" my back leg (right leg for a right hander) to prevent a sway. The results were dramatic.

 

[MC72]

The guy in the video above also has another video (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kNTU--85mkY) in which he explains why he thinks some people sky the ball (he calls it a pop up shot). He explains his method of preventing sway is to have the name of the ball directly at the clubface (3 o clock position if you look down on the ball) and that you should be able to see the name on the ball as you start your swing and also when you're just about to hit it. Should do 2 things; ensure your head stays behind the ball and stop or at least limit sway.

 

[hines57]

The guy in the video above also has another video (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kNTU--85mkY) in which he explains why he thinks some people sky the ball (he calls it a pop up shot). He explains his method of preventing sway is to have the name of the ball directly at the clubface (3 o clock position if you look down on the ball) and that you should be able to see the name on the ball as you start your swing and also when you're just about to hit it. Should do 2 things; ensure your head stays behind the ball and stop or at least limit sway.

I was given the same advice during a golf lesson as well. Certainly gives a single focus during the swing.

 

[ScienceBoy]

The guy in the video above also has another video (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kNTU--85mkY)

Good vid, I saw it in the other thread too, great tip there and lines up well with how I am currently hitting my driver.

 

[One Planer]

I personally think a lot of people sway in the back swing simply because they swoosh the club away into the back swing.

If you look at some of the finer swings and ball strikers on tour, they don't flash the club to the top, it's moved in a controlled deliberate manor.

If you think about weight shift into the back swing, you can make a perfectly centred backswing and still move weight to your right, simply because that's where your arms are moving to the right and they weigh something.

I would guess that if even the most dedicated stack and tilt golfers (who are very left sided) were to make a swing on a pressure plate, they would have some movement into to the right side, simply because of the weight of the arms.

 

[sev112]

I think a lot of players sway because they drag the club head away which takes them off balance initially, and why some players hover their drivers, where the effect would be more pronounced.

This effect is reduced a little if you forward press because this helps to set the shaft on plane and hence no drag away, and hence less sway.

 

[ScienceBoy]

This effect is reduced a little if you forward press because this helps to set the shaft on plane and hence no drag away, and hence less sway.

Something I realised only recently! No idea how I got to 11 without realising how poor my takeaway was. It is way better after I learnt this.

 

[sev112]

Something I realised only recently! No idea how I got to 11 without realising how poor my takeaway was. It is way better after I learnt this.

Only those of us with a scientific bent can understand the very complex mechanics

 

[ScienceBoy]

Only those of us with a scientific bent can understand the very complex mechanics

Even won me a scratch trophy... Lucky day I guess

Plus the V-Easy had its impact.

 

[CMAC]

Even won me a scratch trophy... Lucky day I guess

Plus the V-Easy had its impact.

scratch trophy...off 12 = bandit :ears:

 

[Nosevi]

I think the problem with a lot of aspects of the golf swing is that what 'works' for one player isn't right for another. Look at this video of Anthony Kim:

http://youtu.be/X5-h4Fvh3wI

He moves his head backwards a great deal and does, and to a certain extent does 'sway', at least on the backswing.

Now look at Rory:

http://youtu.be/t55f0qVLYj8

Totally centred with no hint of a sway. Now both strike the ball better than me and both get themselves into a good impact position, they just go about it in a different way. Personally I think the important thing is not to tilt because of a weight shift rather than the weight shift itself.

All of that said I stay very centred bearly moving at all as I get more consistant results with this method.

 

[Swinger]

I'm just glad I can hear and didn't have to rely on the subtitles.

 

[pokerjoke]

Even won me a scratch trophy... Lucky day I guess

Plus the V-Easy had its impact.

Do you get a commission every time you mention the V-Easy,basically 2 sticks stuck
together

 

[Foxholer]

A lot I agree with in that vid, but he, understandably, skips a few key things too - like not really explaining why guys that play a lot don't improve.

Balance - and controlling it if/when it changes with movement - is certainly the key for me! There is so much 'un-natural' action in a golf swing that has to be learned/taught. Swaying is just the easiest - so most natural - way to change balance. Actually hitting the golf ball - and well - is not the brain's primary concern (staying upright and avoiding pain are higher priority), so has to be 'taught'.

 

[ScienceBoy]

I think the problem with a lot of aspects of the golf swing is that what 'works' for one player isn't right for another. Look at this video of Anthony Kim:

http://youtu.be/X5-h4Fvh3wI

He moves his head backwards a great deal and does, and to a certain extent does 'sway', at least on the backswing.

Now look at Rory:
http://youtu.be/t55f0qVLYj8

Totally centred with no hint of a sway.

But still look at the power loaded on Rorys right side, he achieves this without any exaggerated movement to the right and powers through the ball! If only we could all be that athletic, I think even some of the Pros could not do this!

I have learnt a lot from this thread, I cannot wait to hit the range again!

 

[CMAC]

But still look at the power loaded on Rorys right side, he achieves this without any exaggerated movement to the right and powers through the ball! If only we could all be that athletic, I think even some of the Pros could not do this!

I have learnt a lot from this thread, I cannot wait to hit the range again!

watching and copying Rorys 'still' hips in the takeaway has helped me enormously- also his mind thought of the 'wall' at his hands that ensures he doesnt take the club inside too quickly- plus his swing thought about the shoulder at the top and the hip turn afterwards.

I copy all that and feel like Rory- then see my ball skitter down range 4 feet off the ground and dribble past the 150yd marker.

But occasionally, just sometimes it all works and BOOM......practice practice practice