Is this a bit flat

[steadyon]

I've been struggling for a few rounds and just can't seem to get any consistency. Striking not great, pushing a few, hooking a few.

I think I might be swinging a bit flat and need to stand it up a bit more in the backswing. I seem to be trying to manipulate it a lot through imapact.

How does this look?

https://youtube.com/shorts/eRl20su3krw

 

[bobmac]

It's a bit hard to see any details as I can't enlarge the video but I'd say the swing isn't too flat.
Inconsistency in direction is almost always caused by a grip issue. Normally, a weak left hand and a strong right hand.
Get someone to check your grip would be my advice and leave the swing alone.

 

[Maninblack4612]

Not flat at all. At the top your left arm is slightly above the level of your shoulder. Classic "One Plane" swing by the definition of Jim Hardy, see: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plane-Truth-Golfers-One-plane-Two-Plane/dp/0071432450
Listen to Bob, don't change it, especially if it's natural.

 

[Jamesbrown]

Can’t help but think you just wanted some compliments! Nowt wrong that!

 

[steadyon]

It's a bit hard to see any details as I can't enlarge the video but I'd say the swing isn't too flat.
Inconsistency in direction is almost always caused by a grip issue. Normally, a weak left hand and a strong right hand.
Get someone to check your grip would be my advice and leave the swing alone.

Cheers Bobmac, you’re a star, and thanks Maninblack. Funnily enogh I was practising yesterday and did discover just how much I could change both the initial direction and curve of shot by changing the grip. Again Bobmac remarkably I do easily slip into weak left and strong right! Cheers folks???

 

[bobmac]

Again Bobmac remarkably I do easily slip into weak left and strong right! Cheers folks???

It almost seems like I know what I'm talking about

 

[clubchamp98]

I have this very problem it’s easy to just fall back into bad habits.
I bought a training device £10 that clips on to your grip like a training grip.
(SKLZ training grip.!)
It’s great for reinforcing your changes.
I Put it on an old club and just swing in the garden.
It’s amazing how far out your grip can get.

 

[Deleted member 23270]

It almost seems like I know what I'm talking about

Yep.......almost

 

[steadyon]

Not flat at all. At the top your left arm is slightly above the level of your shoulder. Classic "One Plane" swing by the definition of Jim Hardy, see: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plane-Truth-Golfers-One-plane-Two-Plane/dp/0071432450
Listen to Bob, don't change it, especially if it's natural.

Is that why I don’t take much of a divot and pick the ball up pretty clean?

 

[steadyon]

Not flat at all. At the top your left arm is slightly above the level of your shoulder. Classic "One Plane" swing by the definition of Jim Hardy, see: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plane-Truth-Golfers-One-plane-Two-Plane/dp/0071432450
Listen to Bob, don't change it, especially if it's natural.

Is that a good book?

 

[Maninblack4612]

Is that a good book?

I swear by it. It explains, among other things, why a lot of advice you see appears to conflict. He says that there are two distinct ways to swing, as in Bubba v. Kuchar.

 

[Maninblack4612]

Is that why I don’t take much of a divot and pick the ball up pretty clean?

Bob will tell you but I would think that a steeper swing would produce more of a divot. You perhaps don't hit down on the ball much, more sweep it off the turf.

 

[bobmac]

Bob will tell you but I would think that a steeper swing would produce more of a divot. You perhaps don't hit down on the ball much, more sweep it off the turf.

It could also be the result of a lack of weight transfer which would also explain the ''striking not great''

 

[Depreston]

not sure if it's the angle of the camera but your feet line seem to be aiming well right of the target line on the screen. can't tell where your shoulders are lined up though

 

[Voyager EMH]

I've done a lot of freeze-framing and zooming-in.
Bobmac is correct that your right hand is a bit strong.
This causes you to have a lack of cock of the wrists in the backswing resulting in the feeling of a flat swing that you describe.
From a very closed position at the start of the downswing, you move very much in-to-out, but then have to spin your whole body to get the clubface square at impact.
This is the feeling of manipulating it that you describe.
The spinning motion continues as can be seen by your left foot turning to point toward the hole and your right foot sliding a good 12 inches to the right as we look.
You will sometimes meet the ball with an open clubface producing a push with the in-to-out swing.
You will sometimes overdo the spinning motion producing a hook.
If you do as Bobmac says and get your grip checked all the above may change.
You must then get used to a little bit more cock of the wrists rather than rolling of the wrists and a feeling of the clubhead going a bit more "up" than "round" your body.
This will help you get that feeling of "standing up" a bit more that you desire.
You will then not need to swing so much in-to-out and more down-the-line.
You will need to stop spinning through impact as will will no longer need to.

 

[steadyon]

I've done a lot of freeze-framing and zooming-in.
Bobmac is correct that your right hand is a bit strong.
This causes you to have a lack of cock of the wrists in the backswing resulting in the feeling of a flat swing that you describe.
From a very closed position at the start of the downswing, you move very much in-to-out, but then have to spin your whole body to get the clubface square at impact.
This is the feeling of manipulating it that you describe.
The spinning motion continues as can be seen by your left foot turning to point toward the hole and your right foot sliding a good 12 inches to the right as we look.
You will sometimes meet the ball with an open clubface producing a push with the in-to-out swing.
You will sometimes overdo the spinning motion producing a hook.
If you do as Bobmac says and get your grip checked all the above may change.
You must then get used to a little bit more cock of the wrists rather than rolling of the wrists and a feeling of the clubhead going a bit more "up" than "round" your body.
This will help you get that feeling of "standing up" a bit more that you desire.
You will then not need to swing so much in-to-out and more down-the-line.
You will need to stop spinning through impact as will will no longer need to.

Cheers Voyager,

i’ll sort my grip out and ingrain it a bit. I think I can feel when it’s right. My right hand seems to incase my left thumb much better it I roll it over a bit.

 

[steadyon]

Bobmac, Voyager,

you’re awesome!!! Thank you so much!

just had a session at the range. That’s definitely the answer. Slightly more in the fingers of left hand, what feels much weaker in my right hand, fingers and then really roll ’the pad’ over my left thumb. Stand it up in the backswing.

no faffing or manipulation on the downswing just make sure ball first with irons, and get through it with the driver.

Amazing difference. I can really tell when it gets behind me (I hook it). Obviously, it’ll take a couple of sessions to ingrain it But we’re on the right lines. Thank you very much???

 

[tobybarker]

I've been struggling for a few rounds and just can't seem to get any consistency

...said everyone who's ever played the game!

 

[bobmac]

Bobmac, Voyager,

you’re awesome!!! Thank you so much!

just had a session at the range. That’s definitely the answer. Slightly more in the fingers of left hand, what feels much weaker in my right hand, fingers and then really roll ’the pad’ over my left thumb. Stand it up in the backswing.

no faffing or manipulation on the downswing just make sure ball first with irons, and get through it with the driver.

Amazing difference. I can really tell when it gets behind me (I hook it). Obviously, it’ll take a couple of sessions to ingrain it But we’re on the right lines. Thank you very much???

Glad to help.
Just keep checking your grip, if you can't see your left thumb, you should be all right.