Is the world best golfer playing golf?

[iku]

I've been considering this for quite a long time now and start thinking I'm right.

My opinion is that the best golfer in the world is probably doing something else and has never taken a club in his hands.

I'm saying this because golf is still a game for few people, is not played in many countries and surely not from young age for the most of the players.

This would also explain why the difference between pros, amateurs and random player is not as massive as in other sports. You see pros closing a tournament +10 which is something similar to what some of us could do but not a single amateur tennis player would stand a chance against a ATP top 100.

Not to mention sports like football where if you are good it doesn't matter if you were born in a Rio's favelas, you'll be making big money in Europe before you are 20.

So... the world best golfer is not Donald, he's probably someone who has never played in his life.

 

[Smiffy]

So... the world best golfer is not Donald, he's probably someone who has never played in his life.

To be fair, you could say that about any sport.

 

[bladeplayer]

I've been considering this for quite a long time now and start thinking I'm right.

My opinion is that the best golfer in the world is probably doing something else and has never taken a club in his hands.

The best golfer in the world has never taken a club in his hands Ive read this post a couple of times & still dont get what your saying,how can you be the best at something youve never done ?? .. put us amatuer golfers (club Golfers) in Augusta with the pro's off the same tees, same speed greens etc & i doubt if any of us would get near +10 .. your only the best in the world for a short period in time , woods . kaymer , westwood , donald -- sampras federer nadal & soon mayb jocovich (spelt wrong but u know who i mean)but at this present time stats show Luke is the best in the world at golf ,, I apologise in advance if i got meaning of your post wrong..

 

[StrangelyBrown]

You could say that someone who's never played golf isn't a golfer.

 

[iku]

So... the world best golfer is not Donald, he's probably someone who has never played in his life.

To be fair, you could say that about any sport.

I don't think so Smiffy. As I said, everybody has access to certain sports like football, rugby, cricket, basketball, etc. So it doesn't matter where you come from.

If you are the God of football you will be noticed in school, at the park playing with friends, etc.

 

[Smiffy]

I don't think so Smiffy. As I said, everybody has access to certain sports like football, rugby, cricket, basketball, etc. So it doesn't matter where you come from.

If you are the God of football you will be noticed in school, at the park playing with friends, etc.

How many times have we heard that it's the cost of training that has stopped us having a world class tennis player. A real world beater??
And who's to know what aspiring gymnasts are out there. Maybe somebody who will never see the inside of a decent gym.
Little African boy kicking a grapefruit around in the jungle somewhere, never to be "spotted".
It's about being in the right place, at the right time, and usually with the money.

 

[iku]

I meant that there is certainly someone who has an incredible natural talent for golf but never had a chance to play golf and that with proper training would become much better than the professional players we see today.

Another example, we are the only country playing darts so the world best players are british. I'm sure that if the world took on darts the things would change quickly.

 

[bladeplayer]

I meant that there is certainly someone who has an incredible natural talent for golf but never had a chance to play golf and that with proper training would become much better than the professional players we see today.

Another example, we are the only country playing darts so the world best players are british. I'm sure that if the world took on darts the things would change quickly.

You stil cannot be considered even good at something you have never tried , i could be the best singer in the world, or have the possibility of being the best F1 driver in the world.. but unless i do these & prove i am , its pure speculation . new world bests @every sport come & go but you have to participate .. as for darts the dutch aint bad & that aussie guy is up there , its just phil taylor has taken it to a diff level . he will be surpassed in time & im 100% sure the next world No 1 at darts ,WILL have thrown darts , for hours on end , day after day , year after year ,

 

[toonarmy]

This would also explain why the difference between pros, amateurs and random player is not as massive as in other sports. You see pros closing a tournament +10 which is something similar to what some of us could do but not a single amateur tennis player would stand a chance against a ATP top 100.

This is, hands down, the most stupid thing I've read on this forum - and Dodger and thecraw contribute on here.

To make this statement I can only assume you have never seen a pro playing 'live'. The gulf between Lee Westwood's opening 72 at Wentworth and what even a scratch player would have gone round in is as big as the gulf that seems to exist between you and reality!

Amateurs and Professionals both play a game called 'golf', but the game they play bears almost no resemblance to what we do round our local.

Honestly...

 

[freddielong]

I can see what you are saying but golf isn't just about natural talent anymore, its about dedication practice coaching so natural talent would only get him so far its only part of the picture.

It sounds like the argument they are having in America about the lack of USA heavyweight boxers, all the big outstanding athletes are being picked up early by other sport like US football and Baseball

 

[Smiffy]

I can see what you are saying but golf isn't just about natural talent anymore, its about dedication practice coaching

It isn't doing Homer any good

 

[iku]

I think we are just being PC here. I love the game but am the first to admit that it is by large played by white men from 3-4 countries only.

This mean that many potential players go unnoticed and the general level of the game doesn't achieve its full potential.

Let's face it, Carlos Tevez could have never taken on golf but made it from the poorest slum in Argentina to the premier league.

It's just a matter of how many people play. If only few thousands play a game that game will never ever achieve its top. I guess nobody can argue with that.

 

[Tiger]

Interesting post. I reckon that a debate on potential is probably more appropriate and I would wager a substantial sum that there are quite a few inner city kids from deprived backgrounds that would do well at golf. Natural talent is one thing but combine that to hunger to succeed...

 

[chrisd]

So, on your way of thinking, I could be the worlds best violinist except I never had the chance to play one?

Who can I sue for this gross dereliction in my youth?


Chris

 

[One Planer]

I think we are just being PC here. I love the game but am the first to admit that it is by large played by white men from 3-4 countries only.

This mean that many potential players go unnoticed and the general level of the game doesn't achieve its full potential.

Let's face it, Carlos Tevez could have never taken on golf but made it from the poorest slum in Argentina to the premier league.

It's just a matter of how many people play. If only few thousands play a game that game will never ever achieve its top. I guess nobody can argue with that.

Only played in 3-4 countries eh?

English:
Luke Donald
Lee Westwood
Ian Poulter
Paul Casey

N Ireland:
Rory Mcilroy
Greame Mcdowel

Germany:
Martin Kaymer

Spanish:
Alvaro Quiros
Miguel Angel Himamez

Italy:
The Molinary Brothers
Matteo Manassero

RSA:
Ernie Els
Charl Schwartzel

USA:
Tiger Woods
Phil Mickleson
Matt Kuchar
Bubba Wats-Going-on
Jim Furyk

Korea:
K J Choi
Y E Yang

Australia
Jason Day
Adam Scott

There are also Scottish, Welsh, Thai, South American..... Need I go on?

 

[bladeplayer]

I think we are just being PC here. I love the game but am the first to admit that it is by large played by white men from 3-4 countries only.

Ah here are you having a laugh , i thought your 1st post was a bit strange , this post is just plain bolderdash , if you realy think this then there no point.. 3-4 countries ?? do you think europe , america & asia to name three are just countries ?? Youl tell me Chris IS a musician next ..

 

[Toby_LeRhone]

Read this book, it'll blow your mind:


Syed, Matthew (2011) Bounce: The Myth of Talent and the Power of Practice (Fourth Estate: London)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bounce-Myth-Tale...5177&sr=1-1

Using the results of scientific analysis, it demonstrates how it is predominantly practice and not talent that has historically made champions in any complex sporting endeavour. Plus, its a damn good read (I read it in 2 sittings and even got my wife to read it too (she never reads anything other than Hello magazine)).

 

[bladeplayer]

Is it predominantly available in 3-4 countries & mainly for white people to read tho ??

 

[TheClaw]

Apart from a few ridiculous comments, the first idea is interesting. I've often wondered what sport I could have really excelled at...I seem to be quite good at most sports I try but I chose basketball where I played at national league level. If I played a different sport could I have made a career of it??

 

[GeordieAggro80]

Have to say I disagree with the opening post quite a bit. i think the same amount of amatuers would beat a top 100 golfer as 100 amatuers in tennis would be the ATP 100.

Also I know at least a couple of footballers who are as good or better than some premier league footballers. They either had an unlucky break in their career or were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Football was a wrong sport to pick. There are plenty playing who have crept in the back door and if it came to pure skill and talent would be nowhere near as successful as their wage suggests.