Is the current Monarchy too costly for the UK

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Too costly, yes. I don't care what the cost per person is but whatever it is I'd rather it went elsewhere. There are far better uses for it.

Having a royal family in a modern democracy is an outdated nonsense that just doesn't stand up to analysis. One we are stuck with for the time being but as the generations change so may their status.
 

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Isn’t that what you’re doing in refusing to provide evidence to back up your claims?
No , but thanks for asking.
Quotes that it £1.29 or the same cost as cheeseburger per person per year are there to obscure the fact it's a staggering waste of money. Whether that's 8, 80 or 800 million.
 
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No , but thanks for asking.
Quotes that it £1.29 or the same cost as cheeseburger per person per year are there to obscure the fact it's a staggering waste of money. Whether that's 8, 80 or 800 million.
But it's not a waste of money. Any simple Google search will show that the royal family generates wealth for the country. It is our USP and just because you clearly don't like it doesn't mean we should abolish it.
 

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I'm a royalist through and through so of course would say no. I also think that there are things in life which have a value which is intangible, and for me the Monarchy is one of those.

How do you put a price on the positive impact of the Queen's speech during Covid? Or the joyous celebration of a Jubilee or Royal Wedding which brings much of the country together...
 
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As each person pays a total of £1.29 a year then I think for the level of money they bring in and the level of employment they provide then £1.29 is well worth it.

I’ll take the Royal Family and King being the nations head all day long ?
What do they bring in? Nobody, and I mean official bodies have never been able to quantify this.

If you're talking tourism, well Versailles and the Colliseum are the biggest attractions in Europe, so maybe we should follow that lead as a way to boost income? :unsure:
 
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I'm a royalist through and through so of course would say no. I also think that there are things in life which have a value which is intangible, and for me the Monarchy is one of those.

How do you put a price on the positive impact of the Queen's speech during Covid? Or the joyous celebration of a Jubilee or Royal Wedding which brings much of the country together...
You're looking through those royal tinted specs, for those who are not royalists, it just emphasises the divide. Did you not notice Scotland barely touched the jubilee for eg, when england were throwing street parties left right and centre?
 
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But it's not a waste of money. Any simple Google search will show that the royal family generates wealth for the country. It is our USP and just because you clearly don't like it doesn't mean we should abolish it.
Show me the figures, official bodies have never been able to quantify what benefit, if any, the royals bring
 
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What do they bring in? Nobody, and I mean official bodies have never been able to quantify this.

If you're talking tourism, well Versailles and the Colliseum are the biggest attractions in Europe, so maybe we should follow that lead as a way to boost income? :unsure:
They have helped secure numerous trade deals over the years by hosting heads of state and dignitaries at royal palaces, on the royal yacht etc. Yes it's hard to quantify but they have certainly helped.
 

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I would like to see the detailed plans from those who would "do away with" the monarchy with regard to protecting the nation from a rogue head of state (recent examples around the world), protecting the Crown Estate from successive governments raiding it and selling off parts of it to fund electioneering promises and the various changes to the law, defence, constitution etc.
We would also have to cater for a possible return to monarchy should it democratically decided to do so.
 

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You're looking through those royal tinted specs, for those who are not royalists, it just emphasises the divide. Did you not notice Scotland barely touched the jubilee for eg, when england were throwing street parties left right and centre?

Of course I am - which is why I put it that way. No I didn't notice the lack of interest in Scotland.
 

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I would like to see the detailed plans from those who would "do away with" the monarchy with regard to protecting the nation from a rogue head of state (recent examples around the world), protecting the Crown Estate from successive governments raiding it and selling off parts of it to fund electioneering promises and the various changes to the law, defence, constitution etc.
We would also have to cater for a possible return to monarchy should it democratically decided to do so.
A new head of state, if we decided we needed one, would be elected, not repeated through accident of birth. Should one go rogue we would be able to remove them democratically, or via procedures put in place. I would also expect the position, should it be needed, to be ceremonial only, with few real powers. Tell me, how do we remove Charles if he goes 'rogue' and oversteps his role?
 

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Weird, Google says 17m watched the Women's Euros final on the BBC ?
Are you also counting streaming and other devices in your figures?
The 29m for the funeral was tv alone, no streaming etc figures were counted in that.
Either way nice try at trying to be clever.
You know what they say about empty vessels.

Weird, your google seems to be broken

https://www.thenational.scot/news/2...ggest-people-uk-watched-euro-final-last-year/
https://inews.co.uk/culture/televis...-vs-italy-most-watch-event-uk-history-1099039
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...ed-31-million-tv-audience-in-uk-diana-funeral
 
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