Is the current Monarchy too costly for the UK

[PhilTheFragger]

See you when you come back to lock the thread then.

If it goes political then I will
At the moment it isn’t , so I won’t ?

 

[Beezerk]

If it goes political then I will
At the moment it isn’t , so I won’t ?

Trolling is fine though? I thought it was banned as per the Mikes post at the top?

 

[Deleted member 23270]

No what ? It costs upwards of 250 million a year. I dont need to post links to make it true.
All Liverpool Phil has done and the other chap is classic obfuscation to try and make it sound like it peanuts. Rather than the actual paying of crazy money to keep a whole undeserving family in the lap of luxury.

Do you mean the undeserving family that performs countless hours of charity work etc every year?

 

[PJ87]

So £1.29 per person is considered the basic cost by some.

Then the extra cost

So basically if call it £400 million a year to be extreme to the max

That's a cost of £5.16 a year per person

So not even a sleeve of pro v1s

Think it's fantastic value

The royals bring in 350 million a year so even if you take it to the extreme of oh they cost 400 million then they only cost net 50 million

Bargain

Cheaper than chelsea spend on managers every season

 

[theoneandonly]

So £1.29 per person is considered the basic cost by some.

Then the extra cost

So basically if call it £400 million a year to be extreme to the max

That's a cost of £5.16 a year per person

So not even a sleeve of pro v1s

Think it's fantastic value

The royals bring in 350 million a year so even if you take it to the extreme of oh they cost 400 million then they only cost net 50 million

Bargain

Cheaper than chelsea spend on managers every season

Do you mean the undeserving family that performs countless hours of charity work etc every year?

? I tell you what pay me 40 mill and I'll take over.

 

[woofers]

Timing is everything ? some real precious types on here , we get threatened and told to be respectful and stay out of that queen thread, so here we are and still getting whined at.

No one threatened you.
I asked that The Queen thread could stay on topic, which basically was in respect of her death. I didn’t think adults, whatever view they held of the monarchy, needed to be ‘told to be respectful’, in fact there were posts from ’anti‘s’ that understood the situation and articulated their views in the right manner and tone.
So, here you are, copping a bit of flak, but currently you seem to be in the minority.
Maybe just accept that?

 

[WGCRider]

The royals bring in 350 million a year

Where does that come from? The value of tickets sold to visit royal properties is about £9m a year. Mostly the £30 a pop to go to Buckingham Palace.

So that's about £341m a year in unquantifiable/intangible "people come to England cause of the Queen"

 

[WGCRider]

29 million people from the UK who watched yesterday would disagree, plus the billions who watched worldwide.

All about timing with a comment like yours and to be frank, your timing stinks.

Funeral on every channel (even the Sky porn ones) 29m viewers.
Women's Euro 2022 Final on BBC 1 - 31m viewers.

So not even the biggest TV event of the year.

 

[Orikoru]

I broadly disagree with the notion that someone should be the rightful ruler of a country simply by winning the lucky birth lottery. I dislike the fact that while we struggle to pay energy bills we're spoken down to by someone who wears a billion pound hat. I dislike the fact that there are thousands of homeless people on the streets of London while Buckingham Palace sits there with its 250 odd bedrooms.

But I don't have the first clue what would have to happen to even begin a process of eradicating the monarchy in this country so I try not to lose any sleep over it.

 

[theoneandonly]

I broadly disagree with the notion that someone should be the rightful ruler of a country simply by winning the lucky birth lottery. I dislike the fact that while we struggle to pay energy bills we're spoken down to by someone who wears a billion pound hat. I dislike the fact that there are thousands of homeless people on the streets of London while Buckingham Palace sits there with its 250 odd bedrooms.

But I don't have the first clue what would have to happen to even begin a process of eradicating the monarchy in this country so I try not to lose any sleep over it.

Well said.

 

[Swingalot]

Funeral on every channel (even the Sky porn ones) 29m viewers.
Women's Euro 2022 Final on BBC 1 - 31m viewers.

So not even the biggest TV event of the year.

remote control just happen to jump to the sky porn channel did it?

So, we’ve established what you do on a Bank Holiday, the UK generally love the Royal family and football. All good.

 

[Beezerk]

Funeral on every channel (even the Sky porn ones) 29m viewers.
Women's Euro 2022 Final on BBC 1 - 31m viewers.

So not even the biggest TV event of the year.

Weird, Google says 17m watched the Women's Euros final on the BBC ?
Are you also counting streaming and other devices in your figures?
The 29m for the funeral was tv alone, no streaming etc figures were counted in that.
Either way nice try at trying to be clever.
You know what they say about empty vessels.

 

[Oddsocks]

Surely the biggest question is if they are pro LIV or PGA?.

 

[2blue]

Imagine the arguments there would be if we didn't have the royalty to put on currency/stamps etc ?

Thats easy... have a look at some Scottish notes

 

[SocketRocket]

I prefer our Constitutional Monarchy to a Presidential one. I can see the case for a somewhat thinned down Royal Household though.

 

[Voyager EMH]

There will now be a reshuffle of residents in the vast Royal estate as the various members of the RF relocate. The proportion of UK land 'owned' by royalty in the UK is pretty high.

With their fortunes is it time they were self sufficient and not funded by taxpayers who commonly and increasingly find house prices moving beyond their reach.

The Crown Estate is held and audited by the treasury. It is owned by the nation in the name of the monarch. The monarch can not sell any of it. The Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall form part of the Crown Estate. Revenue from the estate goes to the treasury. The Sovereign Grant is 15% of that revenue, although there is currently an increase to fund repairs and renovations to Buckingham Palace. It is set to return to 15% when these are completed.

The Crown Estate, all the land therein and revenue from it, functions as a nationalised industry.

King Charles' personal wealth, which will soon include Balmoral and Sandringham, is not impressive. He will be somewhere around the 300th wealthiest person in the UK.

In my view, we have a very good system for keeping and funding a non-politicised head of state.
Far preferable to me than the USA, France or Germany system, where the head of state is the head of government.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Trolling is fine though? I thought it was banned as per the Mikes post at the top?

Just because someone has an opinion that might be different from yours doesn’t make it trolling.

Trolling is when someone expresses an extreme view with the sole intention of baiting a response.

It can be a fine line, but imo not crossed yet.

 

[chrisd]

Possibly as much as 300 million, even more

What?

It's not £1.29 each, its £300 million - they must have taken the £300 million from my bank account yesterday as I saw my balance had dropped, I assumed it was my leccy bill ??

 

[IanM]

Why do you keep saying £1.29 ... It's upwards of £250000000

And royal families are more than adept at being power hungry and acting class less???

I have not read the whole thread, but are you really not grasping the differences between total cost and per capita?

 

[theoneandonly]

I have not read the whole thread, but are you really not grasping the differences between total cost and per capita?

And are you aware of obfuscation?