Is my Driver lacking?

Could just be a slightly too high spin rate with the driver, I had that issue.

Get on a launch monitor, if your spin rate is like 5k or 7k then its too high. My driver spin rate is now 2500 since swapping to a better suited driver. If your driver is adjustable you should look for the settings or get a shaft that lowers the spin rate.

As for your irons yours are cranked about 3-4 deg on mine and the distances on comparative lofts match up.

My driver with the low spin rates goes 240-270 depending on my contact.

3 or 4 degrees wow what irons do you use? The Rocketblades must be 7 degrees stronger than yours.
 
Not much wind at all Saturday. Hit the par 3 3rd Saturday into the wind with a 6 iron and raised green landing on a uphill. 168 on the S3 to the pin, couple of yards and a birdie. I hit a 6 iron with the wind Monday 190 YRDS with wind my drives go a lot further but I'm on about my average.

I don't base my average on 30MPH wind behind my back with a downhill fairway lol

Maybe it will be better seeing what distances I get out of the driver in the coming weeks now they aren't landing on a wet sponge.

today was calm no wind and flat ROCK HARD fairway. its too early in the season to be worrying about the distance. have you no club from 4 iron to driver?
 
Oops I must be lieing then,

why do you think I have asked the question?

Hitting irons and driver is completely different. I have asked the question for a reason, to see if people think there is a unhealthy gap in difference meaning I'm not getting enough out of the driver. Maybe I'm not hitting on the way up, maybe I'm getting too much spin, who knows hence the reason for the question. If the gap is suspect then perhaps I need a Trackman session to see if there are any odd numbers.

my head is certainly spinning - where on earth do you get a suggestion of lieing from my post?

you posted "maybe not putting as much into it as I should, I don't think I've ever hit the driver as hard as I can, even for fun." and I suggested that most people don't approach their driver that way relative to their irons. I added an outline explanation of why to support this.

I also suggested that you would only really know from the underlying data - which we seem to agree on!

I don't subscribe to the jacked lofts arguments put forwad by Lump at all. you can't seperate the other factors at play in this way at all - the relationship between loft and length is only valid for the same iron having it's loft adjusted. Basically you are achieving excellent iron carry distances and I would expect to see longer driving distances if you were using the same swing. There are of course a number of possible reasons why you aren't - but they would be pure conjecture and pointless. Using a different swing would, of course, explain it.
 
today was calm no wind and flat ROCK HARD fairway. its too early in the season to be worrying about the distance. have you no club from 4 iron to driver?

Sold my R11 rescue mate, looking to buy the G25 hybrid but to be honest I don't miss it, I now lay up on par 5s to my favourite distances and in all honesty score better with that approach.
 
my head is certainly spinning - where on earth do you get a suggestion of lieing from my post?

you posted "maybe not putting as much into it as I should, I don't think I've ever hit the driver as hard as I can, even for fun." and I suggested that most people don't approach their driver that way relative to their irons. I added an outline explanation of why to support this.

I also suggested that you would only really know from the underlying data - which we seem to agree on!

I don't subscribe to the jacked lofts arguments put forwad by Lump at all. you can't seperate the other factors at play in this way at all - the relationship between loft and length is only valid for the same iron having it's loft adjusted. Basically you are achieving excellent iron carry distances and I would expect to see longer driving distances if you were using the same swing. There are of course a number of possible reasons why you aren't - but they would be pure conjecture and pointless. Using a different swing would, of course, explain it.

Just the way it's worded, bit of banter mate don't worry, I defiantly don't hit the driver with all my might as I loose control. Just a smooth swing and hope to hit the fairway. Maybe in the summer ill get the 260 drives I'm after or the 300 yrd forum average.
 
Having tested loads of drivers, I avg 240yds with my driver, they can be hit further 270 has been my longest, but that's not a smooth swing, its swinging out of my boots.

I have a launch of 15/16 degrees and I generate 2600 spin of which 450 is cut spin.

With your distances who said you need a longer drive. Knowone hits the driver 250 all the time. Your average golfer has a 30yrd difference in tee shots. Hit well with a great swing 250, a little to the heel and it's 230 or less.

Just keep it in play and enjoy your golf.
 
Some averages...

8 iron - 150-155 carry
7 iron -160 carry can be a little bit more
6 iron - 170-175 carry
5 iron - 180 + carry depends on quality of strike

Now they are based on quality strikes but I did squeeze a little more out of each club at times yesterday.

Now my Driver probably averages 230 but can go 250+ with a really nice strike.

Now it looks to me like the driver is lacking in relation to my irons, would you agree?

YOur iron distances listed are from "Quality Strikes"
Your 250+ Driver distance is from a "really nice strike" - quality strike in a different wording

What are your average iron distances from average strikes ?

Then you can compare that to your average driver of 230....
 
I hit my irons very similar distances to you. Been carrying the driver about 240 - 250yards through this winter. Roll negligible at the moment, have been finding most drives in or next to their pitch mark.

I'd also suggest getting something in the gap between your driver and 4iron. A fairway wood gives you another option off the tee, even if you continue to lay up on par 5s.
 
do you hit down on your driver like you do with irons or do you hit up on it? (the difference can easily be 20yds) could well be worth a quick session on a monitor (gc2/trackamn etc) to check this, spin rate etc, if there is anything glaringly wrong then it will stand out to a pro/clubfitter etc operating the monitor
 
YOur iron distances listed are from "Quality Strikes"
Your 250+ Driver distance is from a "really nice strike" - quality strike in a different wording

What are your average iron distances from average strikes ?

Then you can compare that to your average driver of 230....

When I say quality I mean not fat or thin, so I mean my normal strike, you get away with bad strikes more with the driver. The iron distances I've listed are my normal shots. I strike irons a lot better than woods. I seem to contact the ball high up on the face with the driver so this could be part of the problem. I use pink castle tees but don't feel comfortable with it teed any lower.
 
do you hit down on your driver like you do with irons or do you hit up on it? (the difference can easily be 20yds) could well be worth a quick session on a monitor (gc2/trackamn etc) to check this, spin rate etc, if there is anything glaringly wrong then it will stand out to a pro/clubfitter etc operating the monitor

This is what I'm thinking mate, I need to find somewhere with Trackman or a honest launch monitor to get some numbers.
 
At the same time though I've never seen a normal golfer hit the ball the distances I see on here at times. My mate Mark has been called a big hitter by most people who play with us and in FISH (Robbins) own words he said he hits it a country mile. When we measured his drives he averaged 240 Saturday (which was the warmest day of the year so far) and they looked like cracking shots. Ill do some more measurements on my drives tomorrow and see what I get.
 
This is what I'm thinking mate, I need to find somewhere with Trackman or a honest launch monitor to get some numbers.


Go see the guys at 3 hammers golf centre as fitted me with my driver after a recommendation. They were bought out last year by AG but don't let that put you off (guy named Luke from memory is the one to see)
I got the fitting free as bought the g20 but think they charge £40
 
I rarely see anyone hit it over 250 so I wouldn't worry about it. It may be a cause for concern if you are in the upper echelons of golf.
 
I rarely see anyone hit it over 250 so I wouldn't worry about it. It may be a cause for concern if you are in the upper echelons of golf.

I don't either but all I see on here is I average 260 - 270 so I'm thinking why is my average so far behind.
 
I reckon in a few weeks with roll ill be hitting 250's more consistently so maybe over thinking it.

Well that's me stuffed tomorrow ill be trying to knock a layer or 2 off the ball with the driver now.
 
I have a very high swing speed and average 265, most people guesstimate from yardage markers and call their best ever hit their average. If they actually lasered it they would get a shock. In all my time playing only my clubs pros have out drove me so that tells you how many people hit it out to 260 and beyond.
 
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