Iron shots help?

RollinThunder said:
I played a lot in the summer (2-3 times a week), and driving was my weakest point, so I learnt the basics, practiced hell of a lot, and now driving is just drilled into my muscle memory. When the driver is in my hand, I just know nothing can go wrong, it's a confidence thing. I'm loose, relaxed and confident, which is the complete opposite of my irons. It's only over the autumn when I haven't been playing as much (once per month), when my irons have gone out of the window.
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Unfortunately muscles dont have memory, they like comfort and natural feeling things so this may be what your referring to, but def not memory. If you know its a confidence with your irons you should deal with the mental side of your game and according to what you post you will be of Cat1 figures soon
 
stevelev said:
Unfortunately muscles dont have memory, they like comfort and natural feeling things so this may be what your referring to, but def not memory. If you know its a confidence with your irons you should deal with the mental side of your game and according to what you post you will be of Cat1 figures soon
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There definitely are some mental issues, only some quality practice and a bit of success will solve them.

The more an action is practiced, the more dominant it becomes, out of which comes the saying "practice makes permanent". I'm just reeling off A-Level PE now :D

I don't know about Cat 1, but I strongly believe that if I get my irons in check, that will cut out probably a dozen unnecessary shots and bring me down to around the 10 mark.
 
If you've got a good short game at what distance from the green are you good to and what club / type of shot are you playing there. And then what club / shot are you changing to when you start to hit trouble? E.g. if you're great to 30yds out then good to 50yds out what do you try to do at 60yds?

With a 300yd drive you can't be playing to many long irons / hybrids in a round. I expect most of your iron shots would be 7iron and below given typical distances.
 
Waiting until early February isn't a problem, surely !

It's wet, probably going to snow, and playing good golf is tough. Have your lessons, practice the drills he gives and by early summer, when it really counts, you handicap should begin to tumble
 
MattM said:
If you've got a good short game at what distance from the green are you good to and what club / type of shot are you playing there. And then what club / shot are you changing to when you start to hit trouble? E.g. if you're great to 30yds out then good to 50yds out what do you try to do at 60yds?

With a 300yd drive you can't be playing to many long irons / hybrids in a round. I expect most of your iron shots would be 7iron and below given typical distances.
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Within 50 yards of the green, all is well. The irons get more difficult as they get longer, so I have most trouble with the hybrid, 5, 6, & 7. Wedges are good, but I'd say most trouble is when between 100-250yds from the hole, so probably at the 8 iron the trouble starts.

The irons are just inconsistent, not getting them into the air is an overstatement, but there are a lot of shanks, duffs and just generally bad, tinny shots.

For the comments about driving, my stock drive is around 250 straight, but upto 300 when my timings right. I'm going to try using my driver swing on some irons and see what happens.
 
I'm going to try using my driver swing on some irons and see what happens.
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Or try using your wedge swing!

If you can hit a decent full SW or LW you should be able to transfer that to an 8 iron.

What happens if you grip down on your 8 iron (i.e. shorten the shaft) and 'pretend' you're hitting a wedge.

I expect that would be easier than transferring a driver swing to your irons
 
You may be doing a number of things. Flipping the wrists, swaying, swinging off plane etc. A video would be a great help.
 
I'm going to try using my driver swing on some irons and see what happens.
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The driver is hit off a high tee with no divot which often masks weight transfer issues.
Irons are generally hit with a divot which needs a good weight transfer.
Get off your back foot would be my advice.
 
Until your lessons, just go back to basics. With irons that means toe up through to toe up. In other words swing back until the toe of the club is pointing upwards, then swing through until the toe of the club is pointing upwards. A 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock swing if you like. Keep everything loose, especially your wrists. You are not trying to hit it miles, so just relax. Stay down over the ball until it is well gone. Sounds to me like you are on one of those anxious downward spirals, where the harder you try the worse it gets. Just swing toe up to toe up and let the club pick the ball up on the way through. Once you have the ball in the air again, lengthen the swing and let your pro build from there. Remember, slumps don't last so relax.
 
bobmac said:
The driver is hit off a high tee with no divot which often masks weight transfer issues.
Irons are generally hit with a divot which needs a good weight transfer.
Get off your back foot would be my advice.
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SocketRocket said:
You may be doing a number of things. Flipping the wrists, swaying, swinging off plane etc. A video would be a great help.
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Best bits of advice yet :thup:
 
I don't know if this will help but here goes; ball position is a major factor in good iron shots. The feet together drill puts the ball in a neutral position relative to your body/ arms and if you cannot hit balls consistently from this drill the your problems stem from stance and is not a swing issue ( ie you are straightening your right leg and gaining height causing a top or losing height causing a fat) . If you now flare your left foot out ( I assume you are using a 7 iron) but DO NOT move the left heel, now move the right foot to shoulder width apart . Lean the shaft forward slightly and swing as normal . This should produce a good flight . I use this drill if I get out of sync and it works for me and I hope it will help you. Good luck.
 
you could join my texas scramble team. 26 handicaps who can pound it off the tee and chip like a dream are few and far between!
 
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