Independence Poll

[JustOne]

I don't think you should TAKE independence, not that you don't deserve it in some way (I care not for the history) but that it's a mistake, a BIG mistake. I wouldn't exactly call it the blind leading the blind but it's certainly 'the powerful pulling the puppet strings'.

In thoery we should live side by side like brothers, so much so that there would be no noticable divide between Scottish/English/Welsh (and Irish?), I conceed that's hard to do if everyone is going to walk around with a large chip on their shoulder :thup:

Let the would be 'rulers' of Scotland worry about how they're going to maintain their popularity/longevity in some other way... perhaps they can bloody well start by trying to make Scotland a better place for it's citizens in a more orthodox way instead of slitting it's throat!

So that's a no from me.... :thup:


(If I were Scottish I'd be ANGRY that it would even be tabled as a possibility! That's not leadership!)


actually you can scrap that... no need to be Scottish to be angry about it.... !! :thup:

 

[munro007]

Its really interesting that a lot of people that have voted No, are english.

 

[JustOne]

We probably like you more than we tell you

 

[rosecott]

Its really interesting that a lot of people that have voted No, are english.

Beware of assumptions - because I now live in Notts, I was born brought up and educated in Fife.

 

[munro007]

Beware of assumptions - because I now live in Notts, I was born brought up and educated in Fife.

But your english now fella, you have went to the dark side.

 

[One Planer]

Just to put a further slant on this.

What currency will an indepandant Scotland use?

The couldn't use GBP as it's the currency of the union. Would they have to join the Euro?

That's not going to be cheap setting up a currency system from scratch.

 

[rosecott]

Its really interesting that a lot of people that have voted No, are english.

I'm still trying to work out how you know that.

 

[munro007]

Am i missing something here. We already have our own currency here. Because every time i go down south, with my lovely Scottish notes, sorry love we don't take them here. With all your fake notes down there, you would think you would be happy to have our notes.

And on another note, i don't want to be part of the euro either.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Am i missing something here. We already have our own currency here. Because every time i go down south, with my lovely Scottish notes, sorry love we don't take them here. With all your fake notes down there, you would think you would be happy to have our notes.

And on another note, i don't want to be part of the euro either.

I was told that the Scottish ones were easier to fake, which is the reason why. Don't know if it's true or not.

 

[munro007]

I'm still trying to work out how you know that.

How i know what dude. Click on the number, and it will tell you who has voted for what.

 

[munro007]

I was told that the Scottish ones were easier to fake, which is the reason why. Don't know if it's true or not.

Every time a master forger gets caught, its always english notes, and euro's.

 

[rosecott]

How i know what dude. Click on the number, and it will tell you who has voted for what.

No - I meant how did you know who is English - also how many of those who voted yes are English/Scottish/other?

 

[One Planer]

Am i missing something here. We already have our own currency here. Because every time i go down south, with my lovely Scottish notes, sorry love we don't take them here. With all your fake notes down there, you would think you would be happy to have our notes.

And on another note, i don't want to be part of the euro either.

Does it say Sterling on them?

If so, the pound sterling is the official type of money used in the United Kingdom.

An independant Scotland would no longer be part of the kingdom/union so should not be allowed to use it IMO.

So, again, It's create a new currency (Not cheap) or join the Euro.

 

[munro007]

Does it say Sterling on them?

If so, the pound sterling is the official type of money used in the United Kingdom.

An independant Scotland would no longer be part of the kingdom/union so should not be allowed to use it IMO.

You clearly haven't experienced the ignorance that i have, when it comes to Scottish Printed Money.

Gareth, they are already talking about using sterling for the short term, if we get the yes vote.

 

[One Planer]

Gareth, they are already talking about using sterling for the short term, if we get the yes vote.

I have no idea if that is even legal but I can't see Mr Cameron Agreeing to that.

Will an independant Scotland also have to set up it's own NHS, army, navy and airforce as, as I understand it, it's currently a GB/UK armed forces?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

It seems the Scots are having the wool pulled over their eyes.. probably for the promise that will never come...... FREE MONEY!!!!!

Whereas in reality they'll be a parasite sitting at the top of the UK. Of course they will be wanting to have their cake... and eat it. I'm suspecting that they'll want to negotiate free access to our roads to import provisions like FOOD, or will it be 'grow your own'?.



The idea of independence itself is xenophobia/racism veiled (thinly) in the the guise of patriotism. I wonder if a mosque or two next to Loch Ness would go down well from what I've gathered there's not really a strong sentiment to our fellow human beings of the name Hamish Patel and Jock Ching, and what do you do with those that DON'T want to leave the Union? do you build your very own Shankhill Rd? Do they suffer in silence?

In thoery we should live side by side like brothers, so much so that there would be no noticable divide between Scottish/English/Welsh (and Irish?), I conceed that's hard to do if everyone is going to walk around with a large chip on their shoulder :thup:

perhaps they can bloody well start by trying to make Scotland a better place for it's citizens in a more orthodox way instead of slitting it's throat!

Possibly the best way to make Scotland a better place for it's citizens is to be able to control how money is used in our country, instead of seeing all our taxation (personal,NI contributions,corporate) heading south to be divied up at no.11?

Scotland is a complex society, with support for all parties (including The Conservative party in The Borders) but the consensus through out the population seems to be against the likes of Trident...only this week £1Billion was appropriated for investigation works into replacing it, not building it, just replacing it!

As for the underhand jibe at Scotland's minority communities, I can't recall any riots up here last summer, or the racial tensions that exist in places like Bradford,Birmingham,Leeds etc.If any far right political party tried to get voted in here, I'm confident they'd lose their deposit.Not something that can be said south of the border.I live and work in Leith, well known for it's large Indian sub-continent and Polish communities, and I can't recall any significant happening to suggest your statement is accurate.

Just to put a further slant on this.

What currency will an indepandant Scotland use?

The couldn't use GBP as it's the currency of the union. Would they have to join the Euro?

That's not going to be cheap setting up a currency system from scratch.

The £ is the currency of the 'Bank of England', except it's not actually the bank of England, it's the bank of The UK...the £ is as much ours as it is Englands.We'll continue to use out own currency,thanks very much...and we'll have a seat (or two) on it's board to ensure interest rates and the like are acceptable to our financial model too.

I have no idea if that is even legal but I can't see Mr Cameron Agreeing to that.

Will an independant Scotland also have to set up it's own NHS, army, navy and airforce as, as I understand it, it's currently a GB/UK armed forces?

They're our NHS,army,navy etc too!About 9%, but I think you'll find the % of serving personel is higher than that number.We pay taxes for the roads in The UK,HMRC,DVLA,NHS...anything that comes from Westminster is as much yours as it is mine....a perfect current example is The Falkkands.The stooshie happening right now is only happening because they all know the oil/gas reserves there could be stunningly big...some suggest more than Saudi Arabia sits on.If we win independence, we'll be due 9% of any revenue stream, international law dictates it.

None if really matters though, as I have a feeling the Scottish nation will vote against the yes vote as the population at large will be mis-informed by the media as The BBC,Daily Retard & Scotsman line up behind the small minded No merchants and Salmonds only hope of positive coverage came with a rather unsightly partenrship with Murdoch...something thats sit uneasily with no nationalist, but a sign of desperation on his part.

If we do win, we'll pretty much get exactly what we want as there are laws and stuff like that already set out, but aside from that we have something RUK needs so badly they'll bend over and take it from wee fat Eck...it's called Coulport.

 

[brendy]

You clearly haven't experienced the ignorance that i have, when it comes to Scottish Printed Money.

Gareth, they are already talking about using sterling for the short term, if we get the yes vote.

You should try using Ulster bank, Bank of Ireland and Northern Bank notes. Totally legal to use but shops are within their rights to refuse it. Luckily I am with the Halifax and those cash machines give out BOE notes so I can stock up before heading away.

 

[munro007]

Possibly the best way to make Scotland a better place for it's citizens is to be able to control how money is used in our country, instead of seeing all our taxation (personal,NI contributions,corporate) heading south to be divied up at no.11?

Scotland is a complex society, with support for all parties (including The Conservative party in The Borders) but the consensus through out the population seems to be against the likes of Trident...only this week £1Billion was appropriated for investigation works into replacing it, not building it, just replacing it!

As for the underhand jibe at Scotland's minority communities, I can't recall any riots up here last summer, or the racial tensions that exist in places like Bradford,Birmingham,Leeds etc.If any far right political party tried to get voted in here, I'm confident they'd lose their deposit.Not something that can be said south of the border.I live and work in Leith, well known for it's large Indian sub-continent and Polish communities, and I can't recall any significant happening to suggest your statement is accurate.


The £ is the currency of the 'Bank of England', except it's not actually the bank of England, it's the bank of The UK...the £ is as much ours as it is Englands.We'll continue to use out own currency,thanks very much...and we'll have a seat (or two) on it's board to ensure interest rates and the like are acceptable to our financial model too.


They're our NHS,army,navy etc too!About 9%, but I think you'll find the % of serving personel is higher than that number.We pay taxes for the roads in The UK,HMRC,DVLA,NHS...anything that comes from Westminster is as much yours as it is mine....a perfect current example is The Falkkands.The stooshie happening right now is only happening because they all know the oil/gas reserves there could be stunningly big...some suggest more than Saudi Arabia sits on.If we win independence, we'll be due 9% of any revenue stream, international law dictates it.

None if really matters though, as I have a feeling the Scottish nation will vote against the yes vote as the population at large will be mis-informed by the media as The BBC,Daily Retard & Scotsman line up behind the small minded No merchants and Salmonds only hope of positive coverage came with a rather unsightly partenrship with Murdoch...something thats sit uneasily with no nationalist, but a sign of desperation on his part.

If we do win, we'll pretty much get exactly what we want as there are laws and stuff like that already set out, but aside from that we have something RUK needs so badly they'll bend over and take it from wee fat Eck...it's called Coulport.

Great read fella. :thup:

They think that its all theirs. :rofl:

I wish i was so eloquent when it comes down to putting pen to paper. lol

 

[munro007]

You should try using Ulster bank, Bank of Ireland and Northern Bank notes. Totally legal to use but shops are within their rights to refuse it. Luckily I am with the Halifax and those cash machines give out BOE notes so I can stock up before heading away.

They aren't legally aloud to refuse are they.

Well it makes you feel like a second class citizen.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Sterling is UK so at the moment Scotland have a % share in the UK's cash.
If we become independent I hope the rest of the UK have sufficient funds to re-pay.

Remember also that it was a Scotsman who founded the Banks of England and Austrailia.