Independence Poll

Independence Poll

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I live right close to Hadrian's Wall, well this little bits that are left, run right past the top of the street, quite odd in the summer months to see bus loads of Japanese tourists taking photo if it. Don't need to rebuild it, the A69 in rush hour takes care of that.

I'd have to redesign the wall as well as one of my favourite local courses would be on the north side.

On a serious note though, would we have to have border crossings like the US / Canada border? What would happen if Scotland decided to join the Euro? Would the English put an embargo on importing whiskey? The north sea oil fields are mainly accessed via Scottish ports. If there is a difference of opinion in imigration would we see a fence patrolled like the Mexican / US border?

More over with Scotland as part of the UK the Scottish economy is sheilded somewhat by the fact that the UK is the fifth largest economy in the world. The thoughts of smaller countries going alone and making profit as suggested by Mr Salmond was blown out the water when the banks of Iceland collapsed and Ireland nearly had to go cap in hand looking for a bail out. Those wanting independence need to seriously consider the implications should it along go wrong.
 
I am all for shifting the Trident subs to the South of England.

An independent Scotland would certainly get a huge financial boost when they stop contributing to the costs of those monsters.
 
Liverbirdie said:
I'd rather join up with them than all them shandy drinking southerners.

My new country - anything north of the Cheshire border/M62 including Scotland. I'm divorcing the south.

Our new national dress:- Geordie black and white tartan tamashanter, Buckfast t-shirt, Yorkshire cricket jumpers and Adidas columbia.

National anthem: She sells sanctuary (the cult), we will mosh to it when played at sporting occasions.

National flag : A tricolour of different shades of rain, with lion repugnant.

Re-draw the borders now!!! Anyone with me?
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Hahaha fantastic, welcome onboard. :cheers:
 
I am quite surprised its 50/50. I think next year, we will get to know some figures. And i think it will make interesting reading. Why else would David Cameron want us to stay, if we are costing use so much.
 
munro007 said:
I am quite surprised its 50/50. I think next year, we will get to know some figures. And i think it will make interesting reading. Why else would David Cameron want us to stay, if we are costing use so much.
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As i have stated before, no pm is going to want the break up of the union on his watch.

For me, the sooner we get that blue rubbish off our flag the better. My only concern is time scales. I really don't want to see this dragged out for ten years, bleeding the south dry to pay for it, and defo no bail outs when it goes wrong. There's about 15 years of oil left, what then?
 
There's about 15 years of oil left, what then?​
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You're being optimistic there Murph, all the big boys have been topping their wells up with mud and slurry for a while in the hope of selling them off to some unsuspecting smaller company. One day soon it's all just going to dry up :ooo: Then we're all stuffed :lol:

Wont be long after that happens that we look at Greece and think they're the rich boys of Europe ;)
 
Worrying, but probably true. Never mind, we have the best hair dressers in Europe. We can rebuild our economy by cutting hair. Heaven forbid we should try to manufacture anything.
 
Personally i would be happy for Scots to have independence although i put my hand up and say i havent got a clue what are the relevant issues

I am REALLY interested in working out how you decide who gets to have a Scottish passport - i bet nobody has though about that yet, anyone who currently lives there , anyone who has got a granny who played rugby for Scotland in the 1990s - seriously though, it's a good question, and i want one too. Perhaps you will just have to give one to anyone who applies.
 
murphthemog said:
For me, the sooner we get that blue rubbish off our flag the better.
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Khamelion said:
I live right close to Hadrian's Wall, well this little bits that are left, run right past the top of the street, quite odd in the summer months to see bus loads of Japanese tourists taking photo if it. Don't need to rebuild it, the A69 in rush hour takes care of that.

I'd have to redesign the wall as well as one of my favourite local courses would be on the north side.

On a serious note though, would we have to have border crossings like the US / Canada border? What would happen if Scotland decided to join the Euro? Would the English put an embargo on importing whiskey? The north sea oil fields are mainly accessed via Scottish ports. If there is a difference of opinion in imigration would we see a fence patrolled like the Mexican / US border?

More over with Scotland as part of the UK the Scottish economy is sheilded somewhat by the fact that the UK is the fifth largest economy in the world. The thoughts of smaller countries going alone and making profit as suggested by Mr Salmond was blown out the water when the banks of Iceland collapsed and Ireland nearly had to go cap in hand looking for a bail out. Those wanting independence need to seriously consider the implications should it along go wrong.
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This.

It seems the Scots are having the wool pulled over their eyes.. probably for the promise that will never come...... FREE MONEY!!!!!

I'm sure they all expect to be sitting on gold plated toilets and have English serving maids spoonfeeding haggis and porridge. Whereas in reality they'll be a parasite sitting at the top of the UK. Of course they will be wanting to have their cake... and eat it. I'm suspecting that they'll want to negotiate free access to our roads to import provisions like FOOD, or will it be 'grow your own'?. I'm guessing that they wouldn't want us to stick a 50% import duty on anything crossing our border into Scotland? I'm guessing they wouldn't want us to hike the tax rate on the import of Scottish whiskey? we might aswell seeing as Irish whiskey is bountiful. 55 million customers NOTbuying Scottish products might have a 'small' impact on their economy.. not sure if tourism will be hit seeing as we'd be visiting a country that turned it's back on the 'Union'.

Can 220,000 currently unemployed Scots be sustained by a nation of only 6 million tax payers.. when I say tax payers i'm ignoring the elderly and the young which are included in that figure... not sure what the welfare state will be able to support seeing as the major income channels could be hard hit, could a nation survive on crofting and car boot sales? Will you bring back work houses for single mothers and send them out to the jobs (that don't exist) whilst taking their children away from them?

The idea of independence itself is xenophobia/racism veiled (thinly) in the the guise of patriotism. I wonder if a mosque or two next to Loch Ness would go down well :whistle: from what I've gathered there's not really a strong sentiment to our fellow human beings of the name Hamish Patel and Jock Ching, and what do you do with those that DON'T want to leave the Union? do you build your very own Shankhill Rd? Do they suffer in silence?

Independence? think about what your going to leave for your future generations.... nowt! this is a political conspiracy to put power/money into the pockets of those at the top whilst they remain popular.. of course any major industry will need to be buttered up by the new 'government' else it might leave... I don't know.. I could go on and talk about living in the past, traditions over common sense but I'm actually off to Stonehenge to gut a virgin.........!!!
 
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JustOne said:
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This.

It seems the Scots are having the wool pulled over their eyes.. probably for the promise that will never come...... FREE MONEY!!!!!

I'm sure they all expect to be sitting on gold plated toilets and have English serving maids spoonfeeding haggis and porridge. Whereas in reality they'll be a parasite sitting at the top of the UK. Of course they will be wanting to have their cake... and eat it. I'm suspecting that they'll want to negotiate free access to our roads to import provisions like FOOD, or will it be 'grow your own'?. I'm guessing that they wouldn't want us to stick a 50% import duty on anything crossing our border into Scotland? I'm guessing they wouldn't want us to hike the tax rate on the import of Scottish whiskey? we might aswell seeing as Irish whiskey is bountiful. 55 million customers NOTbuying Scottish products might have a 'small' impact on their economy.. not sure if tourism will be hit seeing as we'd be visiting a country that turned it's back on the 'Union'.

Can 220,000 currently unemployed Scots be sustained by a nation of only 6 million tax payers.. when I say tax payers i'm ignoring the elderly and the young which are included in that figure... not sure what the welfare state will be able to support seeing as the major income channels could be hard hit, could a nation survive on crofting and car boot sales? Will you bring back work houses for single mothers and send them out to the jobs (that don't exist) whilst taking their children away from them?

The idea of independence itself is xenophobia/racism veiled (thinly) in the the guise of patriotism. I wonder if a mosque or two next to Loch Ness would go down well :whistle: from what I've gathered there's not really a strong sentiment to our fellow human beings of the name Hamish Patel and Jock Ching, and what do you do with those that DON'T want to leave the Union? do you build your very own Shankhill Rd? Do they suffer in silence?

Independence? think about what your going to leave for your future generations.... nowt! this is a political conspiracy to put power/money into the pockets of those at the top whilst they remain popular.. of course any major industry will need to be buttered up by the new 'government' else it might leave... I don't know.. I could go on and talk about living in the past, traditions over common sense but I'm actually off to Stonehenge to gut a virgin.........!!!
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For someone that has so much to say, you haven't voted :confused:
 
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