Incorrect CDH handicap

[scubascuba3]

So, i self adjusted down after a supplementary score correctly, however somehow my CDH handicap doesn't reflect a reduction for the score entered. This is being looked into by the handicap convenor. I'm confident I'm correct but there is a competition tomorrow, so when i enter my score my handicap on the computer is still likely to be incorrect. So, i should be 5, my card will say 5 but the computer will still say 6 so will update with incorrect net figure.

No rule here? It will just come out in the wash eventually?

 

[Colin L]

Firstly, check your supplementary score again to be sure your self-adjustment is correct. If so, just keep yourself in the right by ensuring that you put your adjusted handicap on your card. In terms of the Rules that is all you are required to do. The IT will just have to catch up with you.

 

[scubascuba3]

Firstly, check your supplementary score again to be sure your self-adjustment is correct. If so, just keep yourself in the right by ensuring that you put your adjusted handicap on your card. In terms of the Rules that is all you are required to do. The IT will just have to catch up with you.

Yeah its definitely correct. Sss 68 i shot net 66, so i should go down 0.4 from 5.7 to 5.3

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yeah its definitely correct. Sss 68 i shot net 66, so i should go down 0.4 from 5.7 to 5.3

I didn't think you could go from cat 2 to cat 1 with a supplementary card - has to be in a qualifying comp ?

 

[scubascuba3]

I didn't think you could go from cat 2 to cat 1 with a supplementary card - has to be in a qualifying comp ?

I haven't seen that rule? I know lower than 2.5 you can't do a supplementary (think maybe 3 only to maintain hc)

 

[Fyldewhite]

Your CDH handicap is one thing but the definitive record is the one held by your club on their system. There are all sorts of reasons the CDH can get out of step and although useful this doesn't override your clubs records. If your handicap guy is on the case then your system should be right when you play but I'd check with him before you hand in your card as you could be doing yourself out of a shot.

 

[Colin L]

I haven't seen that rule? I know lower than 2.5 you can't do a supplementary (think maybe 3 only to maintain hc)

That's right for the other Unions which are out of step with Scottish Golf. Cat 1 players can only submit 3 cards between Sep and Dec and only if they need them to retain competition status - except in Scotland which has taken the option of allowing those between 2.5 and 5.4 to submit up to 10 Supplementary Scores at any time.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

That's right for the other Unions which are out of step with Scottish Golf. Cat 1 players can only submit 3 cards between Sep and Dec and only if they need them to retain competition status - except in Scotland which has taken the option of allowing those between 2.5 and 5.4 to submit up to 10 Supplementary Scores at any time.

That's a different thjng though

He is currently a cat 2 golfer so can put in as many as he allowed but I'm sure to go from cat 2 to 1 it has to be during a qualifying competition - I'm sure it happened to one of our juniors last year. Same with you cant go into cat 1 with an ESR

 

[scubascuba3]

Your CDH handicap is one thing but the definitive record is the one held by your club on their system. There are all sorts of reasons the CDH can get out of step and although useful this doesn't override your clubs records. If your handicap guy is on the case then your system should be right when you play but I'd check with him before you hand in your card as you could be doing yourself out of a shot.

CDH gets its scores from the club, maybe its caused by a problem at the CDH endbor maybe LiverpoolPhil is onto something although I've never seen that rule.

 

[DCB]

Can't see anything in Clause 21 that covers cat2-cat1 reduction.

 

[Fyldewhite]

CDH gets its scores from the club, maybe its caused by a problem at the CDH endbor maybe LiverpoolPhil is onto something although I've never seen that rule.

Yeah, all I'm saying is check at your club, the CDH will never be right if your home system isn't. As for LP's theory, I just can't see why you would be allowed to take a card out for it only to be accepted under certain conditions (in this case SSS - 1 or higher). Seems a bit messy....the general principle is that if you do a score it's always on your record. Would be interested to see the result after you've seen your handicap sec.

 

[rulefan]

That's a different thjng though

He is currently a cat 2 golfer so can put in as many as he allowed but I'm sure to go from cat 2 to 1 it has to be during a qualifying competition - I'm sure it happened to one of our juniors last year. Same with you cant go into cat 1 with an ESR

A supplementary score is not an ESR.
There is no restriction on reduction from cat 2 to cat 1 from a supplementary score that I can see in the manual.
A SS is just another qualifying score.

 

[Foxholer]

Definitely worth checking with Club that the Supplementary score has been actioned!

Playing off 5 in the next comp would guarantee compliance - but would possibly be giving a shot to the rest of the field! Playing off 6 is likely to be compliant, but has an element of risk - which could result in a DQ! The choice is up to the player!

 

[scubascuba3]

Definitely worth checking with Club that the Supplementary score has been actioned!

Playing off 5 in the next comp would guarantee compliance - but would possibly be giving a shot to the rest of the field! Playing off 6 is likely to be compliant, but has an element of risk - which could result in a DQ! The choice is up to the player!

The score has been actioned as its on my Scottish Golf CDH profile, but i think somehow incorrectly update.

I'll report back once i have an outcome. I'll play off 5 tomorrow.

 

[scubascuba3]

Woolly update. I checked the score on the club computer/club2000. Somehow my score had been updated to CDH but wasn't showing correctly. One of the convenors said it hadn't been reviewed yet so somehow it had been updated to CDH without being checked.
I'm not familiar with the process of updating CDH vs HDID vs Club2000 but the update was definitely wrong and i was correct. Should have been from 5.7 to 5.3.

 

[Foxholer]

Woolly update. I checked the score on the club computer/club2000. Somehow my score had been updated to CDH but wasn't showing correctly. One of the convenors said it hadn't been reviewed yet so somehow it had been updated to CDH without being checked.
I'm not familiar with the process of updating CDH vs HDID vs Club2000 but the update was definitely wrong and i was correct. Should have been from 5.7 to 5.3.

CDH gets updated from C2K. Not sure whether that's automatic or on request (that interface only came in after I stopped being 'controller'. HDID gets created on request from C2K. It's a 'reporting only' function and only reflects what is on the Master system (the one at your Club) at the time it was requested!

 

[scubascuba3]

CDH gets updated from C2K. Not sure whether that's automatic or on request (that interface only came in after I stopped being 'controller'. HDID gets created on request from C2K. It's a 'reporting only' function and only reflects what is on the Master system (the one at your Club) at the time it was requested!

Two of us did supplementary scores and both were showing incorrectly on CDH/HDID. Both scores were input same as every other week so wasn't a golfer input error, maybe when the main M&H convenor looks into it he can explain.

 

[MendieGK]

Can't see anything in Clause 21 that covers cat2-cat1 reduction.

Even if you cant,his handicap should still have updated to 5.5 no? the minimum his handicap could be without becoming Cat1

 

[DCB]

Even if you cant,his handicap should still have updated to 5.5 no? the minimum his handicap could be without becoming Cat1

I'd posted that in response to Post #4 which threw a wee curved ball into the mix

 

[Old Skier]

CDH gets updated from C2K. Not sure whether that's automatic or on request (that interface only came in after I stopped being 'controller'. HDID gets created on request from C2K. It's a 'reporting only' function and only reflects what is on the Master system (the one at your Club) at the time it was requested!

Most clubs will have their systems to automatic to update the CDH server for comps. I suspect that there could be an error at club level and they may not have done a systems update after the supplementary cards were added. Just a thought.