How hard do you rate you club to others?
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Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I think generally its down to the player and the better ones will play close to handicap at most courses
The diff is really highlighted when you look towards the ends of the spectrum. I moved from playing on an easier, shortish muni one day to tour standard championship courses the next and I know (while still a high handicap player) I'm a better player now than I was but its not reflected as much as it would have had I still played on the muni
I'd like to think that with a couple of practice rounds I'd pummel my previous PB on the muni by 5-10 shots but as I say these courses are very different to each other
The diff is really highlighted when you look towards the ends of the spectrum. I moved from playing on an easier, shortish muni one day to tour standard championship courses the next and I know (while still a high handicap player) I'm a better player now than I was but its not reflected as much as it would have had I still played on the muni
I'd like to think that with a couple of practice rounds I'd pummel my previous PB on the muni by 5-10 shots but as I say these courses are very different to each other
I can only assume you knew Burnham & Berrow like the back of your hand then????
I just knew some clever bugger would say something like this, and you were odds on favourite :ears:
But TBF, I did know my way around B&B and the general direction of where we needed to drive and what was ahead as I was describing the hole layout to my group on each tee, I just didn't factor in the wind & rain as I didn't experience that last year and it was murderous so I walked about 7000yds instead of 6450
Although I'm not feeling very clever today (Man Flu), fancy a small sensible wager for best card on Thursday
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Although I'm not feeling very clever today (Man Flu), fancy a small sensible wager for best card on Thursday
No thanks Geezer.
My handicap is realistic
JohnnyDee
Tour Winner
We're not a colossally long Par 70 but if you don't keep it pretty straight then many of the holes will see your card wrecked. We're certainly one of the hardest, if not THE hardest opening hole in the area.
My handicap normally holds up on away courses, but the visitors to our club almost without exception, point out that the greens with their fiendish undulations and borrows, are its biggest defence. Worth a couple of holes at least in match play.
My handicap normally holds up on away courses, but the visitors to our club almost without exception, point out that the greens with their fiendish undulations and borrows, are its biggest defence. Worth a couple of holes at least in match play.
I would say its a pretty simple course really, stay on the short stuff, keep out of the bunkers and putt well and you will have a good score.
Oh and make sure you tee off when the tide is out if you hit a bit of a slice
Oh and make sure you tee off when the tide is out if you hit a bit of a slice
Kellfire
Blackballed
My course, Ingleby Barwick, is only nine holes (with five alternative tees for back nine) and very short with only one par five in the nine with four par 4s and four par 3s. As such it's got a reputation as a bit of a pitch and putt but I've rarely seen the better players take it apart because it's quite tight in places with small greens and a lot of hazards around them. I'd say it plays to the SSS of 65 on a par 66 if you're getting away well off the tee but if you stray off the tee there's little chance of recovery in most holes.
richart
Major Champion
No thanks Geezer.
My handicap is optimistic.
Fixed for you Rob.:thup:
StrangelyBrown
Tour Winner
I'm not entirely sure, truth be told... A 6200 yard par 70 doesn't sound that hard, but it seemingly is.
The only comparison I can make is with the one other Edinburgh club that I've played recently (Craigentinny), where I shot 82 including a 10 on my card having never played it before. I've only just shot 82 on my home course.
The only comparison I can make is with the one other Edinburgh club that I've played recently (Craigentinny), where I shot 82 including a 10 on my card having never played it before. I've only just shot 82 on my home course.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
Or a wood burner installed at home. All our have got one and boy have they cleared some trees in the last three years.
Qwerty
Tour Winner
I'd say its reasonably fair. Play well and you'll be rewarded. quite large greens and reasonably generous fairways. Certainly no pushover though.
JohnnyDee
Tour Winner
Reading all these tells something that I think we all know already.
The "easy golf course" is a rare proposition. So rare that if indeed one does exist then I'm yet to find it.
The "easy golf course" is a rare proposition. So rare that if indeed one does exist then I'm yet to find it.
Break90
Tour Rookie
I'd say my courses are relatively tough tracks.
The Wandlebury had Open Qualifying for 5 years up to 2012, in the summer the rough is brutal and the greens are lightning quick.
The Old Course holds the Lagonda Trophy each year, a leading amateur championship won in the past by Lee Westwood, Luke Donald, Gary Wolstenhume, Andy Sullivan and Max Orrin. Winning scores over 4 rounds are normally in the region of 10 under, so the leading ams don't 'rip it up' too often.
Having said that, one of the lads at the club set a new Old Course record last summer with a 62 (par 70), playing off +3, so great scores are possible.
Personally, I'm just as capable of shooting a good score (or a bad score) at our courses as I am anywhere else..........
The Wandlebury had Open Qualifying for 5 years up to 2012, in the summer the rough is brutal and the greens are lightning quick.
The Old Course holds the Lagonda Trophy each year, a leading amateur championship won in the past by Lee Westwood, Luke Donald, Gary Wolstenhume, Andy Sullivan and Max Orrin. Winning scores over 4 rounds are normally in the region of 10 under, so the leading ams don't 'rip it up' too often.
Having said that, one of the lads at the club set a new Old Course record last summer with a 62 (par 70), playing off +3, so great scores are possible.
Personally, I'm just as capable of shooting a good score (or a bad score) at our courses as I am anywhere else..........
Mine's a reasonable test of golf, maturing every year (it's still only 9 years old). Not the prettiest course but a good test, especially in a breeze and even the pro's never seem to take it apart in pro ams
hines57
Challenge Tour Pro
Mine's pretty tight and favours accuracy and a good short game. Low handicap visitors usually struggle to play to handicap.
SGC001
Challenge Tour Pro
There is a school of thought that courses with higher sss and css' s tend to make it easier to maintain a lower handicap as those players can deal with the difficulty to a reasonable extent and benefit from what may be thought of as extra buffer room against par.
How the handicap travels will depend on your strenghts and weaknesses against the course as well as the course itself.
Toad
Tour Rookie
lansdowne is a tough test, tight tree lined fairways and thick heather for rough.
Rosemount is a little bit more forgiving but still a good challenge, during medals the CSS is normally +2 on both courses.
Straight driving is a must otherwise your chipping sideways out of the trees.
We host many national competitions for the top armatures and it's good to see them struggle around Landsdowne.
Rosemount is a little bit more forgiving but still a good challenge, during medals the CSS is normally +2 on both courses.
Straight driving is a must otherwise your chipping sideways out of the trees.
We host many national competitions for the top armatures and it's good to see them struggle around Landsdowne.
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Birchy
Money List Winner
Id say tough but fair for my course. Putting can be very difficult for people who dont know the greens 
Makes me laugh when people assume playing at a tough course means the handicap travels well though. Its just not the case :rofl:
Makes me laugh when people assume playing at a tough course means the handicap travels well though. Its just not the case :rofl:
MashieNiblick
Tour Winner
Interesting. My thinking would be that if a course is sufficiently difficult to justify a scratch player taking an extra 2 shots against par, that suggests more scope for error rather than less. A low SSS is in my view more likely to play into the hands of a really good player as they will not have to deal with so many difficult situations. I.e I think it would arguably be easier for a scratch player to pick up birdies on a short par 70 SSS 68 than to get round a long Par 70 SSS 72 without making too many bogies.
Be interesting to see what others think. If you are a low h/capper do you think you are more or less likely to buffer where SSS is below par than above it? or is the system sufficient to mean that it makes no difference?
I think our place is a pretty good test. Par 70, SSS 71, CSS often 72 or 73. 6 par 4's over 400 yards (3 over 450) and only 2 par 5's.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
Id say tough but fair for my course. Putting can be very difficult for people who dont know the greens
Makes me laugh when people assume playing at a tough course means the handicap travels well though. Its just not the case :rofl:
What you on about? I thought that putting at your place was pretty easy.. Thats how it seemed when me and Val mullered you and Jocko anyway.... Maybe you just don't know how to putt properly?
