h/c at new club

duncan mackie said:
That's not what the system is set up to represent and, statistically, you are the odd one out in being able to play that consistently to that handicap - it should make you a pretty consistent winner at matchplay and in small group events (way beyond what you should win) but, as you say, the downside it that you are unlikely to win in a larger field as someone will have a good round (rather than the bad one they frequently manage).
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Agree absolutely with this!

You and I should not be partners - we both want/need a Wild Willie to win a few holes while we keep with our Steady Eddie 2-pointers.
 
duncan mackie said:
That's not what the system is set up to represent and, statistically, you are the odd one out in being able to play that consistently to that handicap - it should make you a pretty consistent winner at matchplay and in small group events (way beyond what you should win) but, as you say, the downside it that you are unlikely to win in a larger field as someone will have a good round (rather than the bad one they frequently manage).
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Duncan, you have made my day, and made my last 4 years.

Thankyou.

Yes, as one of the most feared matchplay players (I have won some silverware in both singles and doubles) you have hit the nail on the head.

Can I let it go now?

I need to for my sanity and my game......
 
It is suprising that 3 cards can just be taken as gospel when people do have a playing history.

When I recently joined my new place I told them that my last handicap was 9, lthough this had lapsed as I hadn't been a member anywhere for over 5 years. I asked if I could just pick up my old handicap but was told that no, I would have to put 3 cards in.

I put my 3 cards in, completely honest rounds, and got a 12 handicap. Even though I'm not as good as I was, I still feel this was generous, particularly as the cards were done almost as soon as I joined and therefore had not built the local knowlege. Now a few weeks later having found my way around a bit I think I've won the first comp I entered with a net 71 (SSS73).

I'm not complaining, as 12 isn't far off what I've been shooting on the whole, but I know on my day I could murder that.
 
rosecott said:
I am known as as a handicap cynic. If this is your highest ever handicap, does your club know chapter and verse of your playing/handicap history? - dates of leaving/handicap level etc.?
I would need to be persuaded that your highest handicap ever at your fourth (and final) club was appropriate - but then I'm a cynic.
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gave them my details,to be honest,not been a member of a club for a while and only been playing about 8 games a year for the last 2 untilli had the money to join my new course,
 
macca64 said:
gave them my details,to be honest,not been a member of a club for a while and only been playing about 8 games a year for the last 2 untilli had the money to join my new course,
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So after all the handicap had lapsed 2 year ago and 3 cards was the way to go.

Good luck with the cuts macca burford is a quality track.
Jay I had similiar was given 10 after being previously being 7 so was close and courtesy of my 3rd card of it may have been 12. Congrats on win good luck with single figures.
 
pbrown7582 said:
So after all the handicap had lapsed 2 year ago and 3 cards was the way to go.

Good luck with the cuts macca burford is a quality track.
Jay I had similiar was given 10 after being previously being 7 so was close and courtesy of my 3rd card of it may have been 12. Congrats on win good luck with single figures.
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cheers mate
 
I joined a club 3 years ago and told them my last handicap was 10 when I stopped playing 25 years previously.
I handed in adjusted cards of +12, +12, +14 (to SSS) and was given 11, so I can only assume that they'd taken my old hc into account, but not sure.
 
am i the only one who thinks a h/cap is only relevant in theory to the course it was obtained at,if your h/cap was acquired at say a flat easy up and down short course or a easy 9 hole how would that then relate to a tree lined narrow fairways monster course,by all means take into account previous h/cap certs. but it must be based on how you score on your new course.
 
6inchcup said:
am i the only one who thinks a h/cap is only relevant in theory to the course it was obtained at,if your h/cap was acquired at say a flat easy up and down short course or a easy 9 hole how would that then relate to a tree lined narrow fairways monster course,by all means take into account previous h/cap certs. but it must be based on how you score on your new course.
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I was going to post a popcorn smiley, but instead I'll try to answer.

Both of your courses might be par 72, but the easy flat open one could have an SSS of 68, and the long tight one may be 74.

To play to handicap, a 10hc golfer would have to score 78 around the easy course and 84 on the hard course.

It's not perfect as many on here will argue, but it helps and is better than nothing.
 
Region3 said:
I was going to post a popcorn smiley, but instead I'll try to answer.

Both of your courses might be par 72, but the easy flat open one could have an SSS of 68, and the long tight one may be 74.

To play to handicap, a 10hc golfer would have to score 78 around the easy course and 84 on the hard course.

It's not perfect as many on here will argue, but it helps and is better than nothing.
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so who would benefit most if they both moved,what advantage would the player from the easy course get if he had to play the tougher course of his 10 h/c say in a comp? as opposed to the player from the tougher course playing the easy course in their open?
 
6inchcup said:
so who would benefit most if they both moved,what advantage would the player from the easy course get if he had to play the tougher course of his 10 h/c say in a comp? as opposed to the player from the tougher course playing the easy course in their open?
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The aim of SSS is to even out so both should score similiarly in relation to SSS rather than par on each others courses.
 
Well my situation has just changed.

After being given a 12 handicapp based on the 3 cards, I then shot 83 in my first comp (SSS 73, comp scratch 74) they initialy cut me 0.6 to 11.4, as per normal handicapp deductions.

However, I've just had an email from the handicapp and comp secretary saying my handicapp has been revised to 9.4 under general play provisions.

I don't have a huge problem with that, although I think it's a little bit of a steep cut, but goes to show that they will monitor new members.
 
Maybe a touch harsh but it's what you played to in your 1st comp, therefore you can understand the rationale behind the decision.

Wow wow single figures well played!
 
Absolutely. I have no complaints, I know I'm capable of playing to single figures, as I've done it in the past. I feel that perhaps it's a bit of a drastic cut for a single result however. But my goal was single figures so I'm quite happy about it.
 
pbrown7582 said:
The aim of SSS is to even out so both should score similarly in relation to SSS rather than par on each others courses.
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i know what SSS should do but in reality how many on these pages have played with someone of the same h/cap from an easy course in say an invitational and wondered how they got it,i still say a 10 h/c player from a long tough narrow course is a better player than one from a wide open no trouble easier course.
 
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