Gym and Golf.

[Ethan]

As last week highlighted, even Rory has a finite amount of energy. When you are at the top of the game, and assuming you want to remain at the top, some things have to be sacrificed. Yes, I think he should cut out the pro-ams and high maintenance girlfriends. Alternatively he can just accept the occasional flop because he's too knackered.

Totally unrealistic idea. He may need to pare his schedule down a bit but the tournament sponsors want the big names at pro-ams, and nothing wrong with a young guy having a girlfriend. Not his fault that the media has an obsession with whoever she will be.

From a career point of view, the best thing he could do is give up European Tour membership. He performs better in the US and would have less jet lag and travel. Do you think he should do that?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

As last week highlighted, even Rory has a finite amount of energy. When you are at the top of the game, and assuming you want to remain at the top, some things have to be sacrificed. Yes, I think he should cut out the pro-ams and high maintenance girlfriends. Alternatively he can just accept the occasional flop because he's too knackered.

How do you know his girlfriend is high maintenance ? He has been with her for 6 months yet only now it's been found out ?

The Pro Ams are all part of being a professional golfer - he has played in them since the day he become a pro - played in them before winning major tournaments - most of the time they are part of the whole tournament.

 

[stevek1969]

Who is his girlfriend?

My whole gym regime changed after going to see a TPI Instructor, it opened my eyes that for the past 10 years ive been doing the wrong thing. I used to batter the weights but this just made very rigid in the golf swing.

Now i follow a lot of different flexability and rotation exercises with a lot of explosion exercises, ive started to notice a big difference in how i swing now, definatly an education going on the TPI Website

 

[Fish]

i follow a lot of different flexability and rotation exercises with a lot of explosion exercises,

I've watched a few of those late night programmes also, Oh how I'd love to rotate, be more flexible and explode

 

[gazr99]

I think the better pros are all going to the gym regularly. Yes you can be a good player not going to the gym but it is a definite advantage going.

Even the majority of those who you think are skinny or overweight are probably going to the gym, it's not all about putting on lots of muscle.

 

[shewy]

Well from being a short dumpling who hates the gym with a dodgy game I've taken it upon myself to transform my shape by working out in the gym, 2 weeks in and feel stronger already so I'll let you know if it improves my game!
What' this TPI instructor malarky? I've been throwing the weights (albeit light) about a bit and don't want to exercise the wrong bits!

 

[shortstuff]

From a career point of view, the best thing he could do is give up European Tour membership. He performs better in the US and would have less jet lag and travel. Do you think he should do that?

Yes I agree with you here.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Totally unrealistic idea. He may need to pare his schedule down a bit but the tournament sponsors want the big names at pro-ams, and nothing wrong with a young guy having a girlfriend. Not his fault that the media has an obsession with whoever she will be.

From a career point of view, the best thing he could do is give up European Tour membership. He performs better in the US and would have less jet lag and travel. Do you think he should do that?

He won't give up the ET - won't be able to play Ryder Cup then

 

[sawtooth]

I am sure the gains are minimal to his golf as he was hardly in poor shape before. Maybe gives some players a mental edge though as they will believe they have out worked their opponents off the course. As long as he does not go overboard and becomes unflexible it cannot hinder him and he is a long way from that size.

This is really where I am coming from. I think he is quite a bit bigger now than what he was when he first started out. Its not unreasonable to think that if you change your body significantly then it will alter your swing and not necessarily for the better.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This is really where I am coming from. I think he is quite a bit bigger now than what he was when he first started out. Its not unreasonable to think that if you change your body significantly then it will alter your swing and not necessarily for the better.

Do you see his swing ?

Its possibly being affected by his increase in muscle which isnt that vast - but its certainly an improvement when you look at the way he hits a ball.

 

[Fish]

This is really where I am coming from. I think he is quite a bit bigger now than what he was when he first started out. Its not unreasonable to think that if you change your body significantly then it will alter your swing and not necessarily for the better.

I think there is a huge difference between doing some stamina, flexibility and strength exercises in relation to golf to that of some of the pictures I've seen of him trying to clean & jerk and bench press some huge weights!

 

[Hobbit]

Now i follow a lot of different flexability and rotation exercises with a lot of explosion exercises,

I've found that the visit to the curry house helps with the explosion exercises...

 

[AmandaJR]

You're less likely to be too unfit to play good golf than too fit! As Fundy says the gym work also helps prevent injury and protects the back from the rigours of the golf swing...

You need to be working on the right things but extra explosive power (controlled!) can only be an advantage imho.

 

[sawtooth]

I think Rory has got better, longer and more consistent thanks to his gym work. His poor form comes from high maintenance, flash girlfriends and playing in stupid ProAms before a tournament.

Pretty much this

Westwood consistent high performance over the last decade is down to better fitness and gun work

Rose , Poulter , Kaymer all have their own personal fitness trainers now to keep them going at the top level all year round

Rory hits the distances he does with both timing and muscle with speed and power - he has gained half that with gym work with also includes things like Pilates and weights and CV work

Since I started doing Pilates it has improved my golf

You're less likely to be too unfit to play good golf than too fit! As Fundy says the gym work also helps prevent injury and protects the back from the rigours of the golf swing...

You need to be working on the right things but extra explosive power (controlled!) can only be an advantage imho.

I agree if you are talking about general fitness, ie core exercises, eating healthily, track work, swimming, stretching, pilates, yoga, etc

Not so sure about bench pressing big weights and building muscle mass though.

Compare Rory's physique now compared to 2011 he is a fair amount bigger - if it aint broke don't fix it!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I agree if you are talking about general fitness, ie core exercises, eating healthily, track work, swimming, stretching, pilates, yoga, etc

Not so sure about bench pressing big weights and building muscle mass though.

Compare Rory's physique now compared to 2011 he is a fair amount bigger - if it aint broke don't fix it!

Westwood , Rose etc they all bench press

McIlroy can hit the ball as far as he can because of that extra strength

He isn't breaking anything - he is improving it - his swing gets better each year

He is a better golfer now than he was in 2011 - the amount of tournaments won over the last 12 months suggest that whatever work he is doing is improving him

 

[pokerjoke]

I've found that the visit to the curry house helps with the explosion exercises...

Your a fine specimen of a man Brian and I wish I had time to try out your regime.

I don't think I could fit in 5 unhealthy meals a day though:ears:

 

[sawtooth]

Westwood , Rose etc they all bench press

McIlroy can hit the ball as far as he can because of that extra strength

He isn't breaking anything - he is improving it - his swing gets better each year

He is a better golfer now than he was in 2011 - the amount of tournaments won over the last 12 months suggest that whatever work he is doing is improving him

You can only speculate on that Phil (as am I) , there are all sorts of reasons why he may have improved over the last few years - if indeed that is the case. He wasn't that bad when he won the US open back in 2011. For all we know he might be as good or even better by now without all the weight training.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You can only speculate on that Phil (as am I) , there are all sorts of reasons why he may have improved over the last few years - if indeed that is the case. He wasn't that bad when he won the US open back in 2011. For all we know he might be as good or even better by now without all the weight training.

He is now hitting the ball further than he did before - the distances he gets regualry points to both better technique and speed through the ball

It's clear over the last 12 months that he has reached another level - two majors plus a couple of WGC etc - how can there be any suggestion that his game could suffer because of the weights when the results don't point to that ?

 

[pokerjoke]

He is now hitting the ball further than he did before - the distances he gets regualry points to both better technique and speed through the ball

It's clear over the last 12 months that he has reached another level - two majors plus a couple of WGC etc - how can there be any suggestion that his game could suffer because of the weights when the results don't point to that ?

Hes in a better place mentally than a year ago.
Over his personal problems with his ex and his management company,this could easily
have a bigger impact than anything physical.

 

[Lambchops]

I've renamed my local curry house to 'the gym'.

I spend a lot of time in 'the gym'. My long game is pretty good so I think my regime works quite well :thup:

we call the bar 'the office' we spend that much time there.my hc hasnt shifted one bit in 7 month so i guess its not harming me