Gutted, Did not get the school place we wanted

[SocketRocket]

Shall we go down the route of China and restrict the amount of children people are allowed

The problem appears to be not being able to go to the school they want their children to go to but there will be space at another.

More schools to chose from it better - so thats a good thing from the population increase -:thup:

Thats a rather silly reply. If you don't think we have a problem with school places due to population increase then come up with some facts rather than emotional claptrap.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Have you not seen the problems schools have throughout the country with class sizes and the inability for them to supply enough places, also how bad this is projected to become in the future?

This article may help your understanding: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-32161851

I know I don't need to tell you what happens when the population increases too fast?

Serious question now, how would you deal with the growing population issues?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think the OP has to at least ask the question why didn't my child get in and see what happens and consider an appeal

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Thats a rather silly reply. If you don't think we have a problem with school places due to population increase then come up with some facts rather than emotional claptrap.

Well it will stop the popualtion increase that you seem to use as a reason for every problem

The population around where i live has grown - they have built new houses = jobs and income for the builders , built new schools = jobs for teachers, janitors etc , increased bus line = jobs for drivers , increased shops = more jobs -

Do you get the picture now ?

 

[SocketRocket]

Serious question now, how would you deal with the growing population issues?

I honestly dont know as it's a reality not hypothetical. I could suggest ways that may help to reduce it's acceleration and that would have to be a reverse the 'pull' factors that have created this situation.

 

[SocketRocket]

Well it will stop the popualtion increase that you seem to use as a reason for every problem

The population around where i live has grown - they have built new houses = jobs and income for the builders , built new schools = jobs for teachers, janitors etc , increased bus line = jobs for drivers , increased shops = more jobs -

Do you get the picture now ?

There are very few issues that IMO would not be improved by a reduction in population, especially World population.

Not your rose tinted glasses picture! You do seem to live in perfect isolation to the issues that are affecting the country. The rest of the country has a housing shortage that is just about impossible to address, they have school shortages such that there are real fears for the supply of places : Read this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-32161851.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not your rose tinted glasses picture! You do seem to live in perfect isolation to the issues that are affecting the country. The rest of the country has a housing shortage that is just about impossible to address, they have school shortages such that there are real fears for the supply of places : Read this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-32161851.

Notice in that article it suggests we are in the middle of a baby boom - so restriction of the amount of kids people will have ?

 

[bluewolf]

Have you not seen the problems schools have throughout the country with class sizes and the inability for them to supply enough places, also how bad this is projected to become in the future?

This article may help your understanding: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-32161851

I know I don't need to tell you what happens when the population increases too fast?

No, I've seen alarmist headlines and Local Authority scare stories. I prefer to look at the evidence in front of me every day when I take my 2 kids to school. Each of them got into the Schools we/they wanted. The Teachers do a fantastic job and infrastructure and facilities are far better than when I was at School in the 80's. Obviously, I can't comment on Schools around the Country, but then I suspect, neither can you..

Oh, and population increase is a necessary evil. The English fertility rate has been below 2 for several years.. Pensioners are becoming a ever increasing percentage of the population. The cost of the State Pension bill is rising every year, and will continue to rise as long as the Grey Vote is courted by all parties.. It can be argued that the rise is happening too fast, but if you shut the borders, then you're gonna have to persuade people to have more kids..

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Notice in that article it suggests we are in the middle of a baby boom - so restriction of the amount of kids people will have ?

So what's the solution in your utopian world. Do you really think the Chinese method is going to work in western society? Not a hope. The issue has been festering away for decades and government after government has failed to address the problems of increased pupils and consequently the number of pupils not getting their first pick has increased year on year for ages

 

[SocketRocket]

Notice in that article it suggests we are in the middle of a baby boom - so restriction of the amount of kids people will have ?

It's too late for that, the horse has bolted. We are in the middle of a baby boom and you may not have taken it in yet but that tends to increase population

 

[bluewolf]

It's too late for that, the horse has bolted. We are in the middle of a baby boom and you may not have taken it in yet but that tends to increase population

I do love the way you phrase these things.. Why don't you tell us what you would do to correct population increase globally?

 

[SocketRocket]

No, I've seen alarmist headlines and Local Authority scare stories. I prefer to look at the evidence in front of me every day when I take my 2 kids to school. Each of them got into the Schools we/they wanted. The Teachers do a fantastic job and infrastructure and facilities are far better than when I was at School in the 80's. Obviously, I can't comment on Schools around the Country, but then I suspect, neither can you..

Oh, and population increase is a necessary evil. The English fertility rate has been below 2 for several years.. Pensioners are becoming a ever increasing percentage of the population. The cost of the State Pension bill is rising every year, and will continue to rise as long as the Grey Vote is courted by all parties.. It can be argued that the rise is happening too fast, but if you shut the borders, then you're gonna have to persuade people to have more kids..

Immigrants grow old and increase the ageing population further, so is the answer to have an exponential increase of them? Sounds like the politics of the madhouse to me. A controlled population would be best and before Phil chips in you dont need to sterilise people to achieve that.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It's too late for that, the horse has bolted. We are in the middle of a baby boom and you may not have taken it in yet but that tends to increase population

No one has said there isnt a population increase - it appears its from a baby boom - so do you restrict the amount of kids people can have ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Immigrants grow old and increase the ageing population further, so is the answer to have an exponential increase of them? Sounds like the politics of the madhouse to me. A controlled population would be best and before Phil chips in you dont need to sterilise people to achieve that.

So how do you control the population growth that is happening not just in the UK but is also happening around the world

 

[bluewolf]

Immigrants grow old and increase the ageing population further, so is the answer to have an exponential increase of them? Sounds like the politics of the madhouse to me. A controlled population would be best and before Phil chips in you dont need to sterilise people to achieve that.

But the immigrants arriving tend not to be pensioners.. They tend to be of working age. The majority pay tax, which helps to pay the pension pot.. I agree that it's a great big Pyramid scheme, but that's Capitalism for you.. If you want a long term fix, you're probably going to have to wipe out every 3rd World Country, use their land to build farms, and develop a form of Socialism that benefits only the rich.. It'd be a Brave New World wouldn't it?

 

[SocketRocket]

I do love the way you phrase these things.. Why don't you tell us what you would do to correct population increase globally?

Educate people and reward smaller families. In saying this I am fairly convinced that globally we have passed the critical point where mankind can control the population such that it is not putting too much strain on the planets resources. I guess nature will ultimately find a way of dealing with it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Educate people and reward smaller families. In saying this I am fairly convinced that globally we have passed the critical point where mankind can control the population such that it is not putting too much strain on the planets resources. I guess nature will ultimately find a way of dealing with it.

Educate them in what way ?

And What sort of reward ? More money for having less kids ?

 

[SocketRocket]

But the immigrants arriving tend not to be pensioners.. They tend to be of working age. The majority pay tax, which helps to pay the pension pot.. I agree that it's a great big Pyramid scheme, but that's Capitalism for you.. If you want a long term fix, you're probably going to have to wipe out every 3rd World Country, use their land to build farms, and develop a form of Socialism that benefits only the rich.. It'd be a Brave New World wouldn't it?

The immigrants become pensioners and will need more to support them in their old age. Regarding them all working and paying tax, thats a close run thing, the many doing low paid jobs are claiming tax credits and family allowances so the net tax in negligible. I believe those from outside the EU have created a very large net loss to the exchequer.

Regarding your long term fix! I take it thats a light hearted dig, if not then I wont bother with a reply.

Something to read: http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/1.37

 

[SocketRocket]

Educate them in what way ?

And What sort of reward ? More money for having less kids ?

Contraception and the reality that their children are starving. I do believe you would be better off rewarding people to have small families.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Contraception and the reality that their children are starving. I do believe you would be better off rewarding people to have small families.

maybe they want to have kids

So you would basically pay people not to have kids