Grooves Sharpener

No. By removing material, it must make grooves illegal. They are already machined to the limits of the rules when they leave the factory. If the edges of the grooves get blunt, then this can only sharpen them by making them illegal. I would refuse to sign the card of any one I knew who was using one of these. If the face is that worn that the grooves need to be re cut, then get a professional to do it, or buy a new wedge.
 
TRS30 I'll send you my one free of charge. I considered mine a waste of money to be frank. PM me your address if you want it. I never thought of the illegal side of it - not sure how you could make sure you didn't grind too much away etc but they do work a little but not very evenly I didn't think. I would suggest a pro ground the club if its of any value so you get an even finish and stay legal.
Mine was only used on an old 'garden only' wedge!
 
It's would be against the rules to have grooves over a certain size - the new changes don't affect us till 2024 at least - but there is still a legal maximun size. If you could be sure to keep within those tolerances then you'd be ok. Can you measure to 2/1000ths of a mm or whatever it is?Personally, I havn't got a measuring device that does less then millimetres!
 
Never considered the illegal side of this to be honest.

The only reason I looked into it is that I have an oil can finished vokey that I love and you cannot get them new in left handed and the one I have is quite old and I can see the grooves are not as sharp as the other one I have.

Don't want to have an 'illegal' club in my bag and judging by the responses so far they don't seem to make much difference anyway.
 
Im the same ive only had my vokey wedge 4 mths already it doesnt seem as responsive as when first brought obviously due to wear and tear,question will sharpening help?
 
If these devices broke the rules of golf the R&A would have made a statement banning them and there use by now surely. To my knowledge they haven't so they must be legal.
 
Surely if it's designed to remove material from the groove then in theory you could only use it once on SQUARE GROOVES as the club would then be "fully ground" so to speak.... however wouldn't it be fully ground in the first place when it left the factory?

Not so sure what the implications would be on V shaped grooves though.

A golf shop pro told me to scrape the life out of the grooves with a tungsten tipped dart as it's the only thing hard enough to achieve anything.... but then don't go around afterwards telling anyone you did it!! :D
 
If these devices broke the rules of golf the R&A would have made a statement banning them and there use by now surely. To my knowledge they haven't so they must be legal.
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I'm sure someone will find it in the rules somewhere :p
 
I thought the point of these things were to straighten the grooves on your wedges after wear and tear from stones bashing them in.

I can't state for a fact but I can't see this type of tool being able to dig a deeper groove.
 
If these devices broke the rules of golf the R&A would have made a statement banning them and there use by now surely. To my knowledge they haven't so they must be legal.
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The sharpener itself cannot be illegal as per the rules but if, in "sharpening" your grooves, you increase the size to above the limit as defined in the rules then the club becomes illegal.
 
If you're good enough to play in matches where there's a possibility that your wedge groove depth is going to be measured then DON'T risk it. For every other game it's down to your own judgement/integrity - it's a gentlemans game.

nb: It doesn't matter how sharp your grooves are if the best ball in your golfbag is a Topflite!
 
The material the tool is made from is very much harder than the steel used on a golf club, that is why it can remove material from the "damaged" edge of the groove. It doesn't cut bigger or deeper just restores the edge to how it was when new which is the size the groove should be. If the tool is a set size it will only cut to the original dimension which is why it doesn't infringe the rules.The pro's dont use them because when they notice a decline in groove quality they go into the tour van and have a new wedge made up thus ensuring new grooves all of the time.
 
Drawboy is correct. Over time the face of the club becomes dented. The face distorts , bending the material on the face into the groove. The sharpener removes the metal that has bent into the grooves, restoring them to the original size/sharpness. Providing the tool you buy is no bigger than the legal limit for grooves, it can't make them any bigger..
 
Drawboy is correct. Over time the face of the club becomes dented. The face distorts , bending the material on the face into the groove. The sharpener removes the metal that has bent into the grooves, restoring them to the original size/sharpness. Providing the tool you buy is no bigger than the legal limit for grooves, it can't make them any bigger..
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No no no no no....these tools are scrapers, they work by removing material. If they didn't have a sharpe edge, they would not be able to remove the damaged/bruised area. There is nothing on the scrapers that I have seen which will stop you going deeper or wider if used incorrectly. I've been a precision engineer for 30 years, and would put my metalworking skills up against any club pro, but I couldn't guarantee if I was to use one of these, the club would still be leagle afterwards. If your grooves are that bad, buy a new club.
 
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